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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:14 PM
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How Quickly We Forget - Re: Obama and the Public Option
Obama has recently appeared to whitewash his support of the public option.

This is sad, but I'm sure he'll issue a "clarification" before Xmas. In fact, I guarantee it. The main criticism of Obama is that he did not push hard enough for the public option. He said he wanted it, he said we needed it, and then he refused to fight for it.

Well what happened with the Clintons?

Didn't the Clintons fight tooth and nail for the little guy? Didn't they call out the insurance companies and try to hold them accountable? Didn't they do everything they could to make health care reform the number one issue for their administration? How did that work out?

They failed.

Health care reform was ALWAYS going to let the Left down. It was never going to be universal. But do you really think the Right is fighting against this now? Those tea parties, those rallies, hell that's all nothing. Had Obama mirrored the Clinton charred earth strategy (or even taken a "public option or nothing" approach) the RW would have brought out the big guns and ran this reform into the fucking ground. You think you've seen paranoia and hysterics with the tea parties? Imagine if Obama was actively pushing for universal health care. Obama's approach has effectively muzzled what would otherwise have been a spastic seizure by the Right.

As a result, Health Care Reform is looking both probable and possible. It won't make the majority of the posters on this forum happy, but it will save a lot of lives and increase the quality of life for a whole bunch of people.

He is trying to avoid all the mistakes the Clintons made. Does nobody else see this?

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WT Fuheck Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:20 PM
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1. Has he fought for anything? I don't think so. His crew's only real passion
seems to have been shown when they attack liberals.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:22 PM
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2. Has he fought for anything?
I remember stories of threats against new Congress members over the authorization of further funding for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nothing else though.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:24 PM
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4. No, they only attack Liberals.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:24 PM
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3. What I see is that the Senate bill will probably do nothing to help the people I love who need...
...real help right now. If the legislation that ends up being signed into law proves me wrong, I will rejoice.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:26 PM
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5. That's one way of looking at it..
PErsonally I believe he could have got the public option if he fought a little harder because it was just 6 or 7 senators.
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WT Fuheck Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:27 PM
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6. 'a little harder'?
how about if he'd fought for it *at fucking all*?
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