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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:58 PM
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"You can't be a good writer and not be a good thinker...
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 08:59 PM by BushDespiser12
this is a depressing thought for a writer." :evilgrin:

Andy Rooney reflecting on 60 Minutes.

Cheers to all the great thinkers here. :toast:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:00 PM
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1. That's *his* opinion.
:P
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:01 PM
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2. Nance -
That broad is a good thinker!

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:47 PM
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6. "Broad"?
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:59 PM
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7. It's a compliment - at least in NYC it is -
no offense - !
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:24 PM
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3. It's true, and it's something my (school administrators) bosses never understood.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 09:24 PM by WinkyDink
They, to a person, regarded writing well as merely a "skill" that could be taught to anyone.

But then, they also regarded the sole purpose of writing to be utilitarian communication.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:42 PM
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5. It is true
1. Have something to say
2. Have or get enough clarity to say it*
3. Start
4. Continue
5. Rework (edit/rewrite)
6. Rinse and repeat
7. Voila!

* Aside from No. 1 (the idea itself), this is the key thing. EVERYTHING flows from that. Everything. You can't SAY what you want or be understood, IOW you can't communicate at all, if you don't have coherent thoughts and the logical thought processes which take the reader from here to there. If your thinking (your own logic) is wanting, so will be your writing. If your own thinking is lax, so will be your rewriting. You'll miss what's missing. You'll overlook the points begging to be made. On and on -- the perils are endless. The cure: better quality THINKING.

And I don't know how the hell you teach that -- not easily, anyway. It's a lifelong pursuit, or should be.

But I do know this: teaching fallacies of logic continuously starting in middle school or before would be real helpful.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:25 PM
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4. Yup - thinking, writing, talking... all the same thing.
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