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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:27 PM
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Of course we should accept the Health Care reform bill, and then wait for it to be improved over
time.
Why should we have any doubts that will happen?



What could possibly go wrong?????????????:silly: :crazy:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:40 PM
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1. I am always amazed at the level of naivete displayed by the people who actually believe that.

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:58 PM
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3. Because Social Security was perfect on the day it was passed
And the Emancipation Proclamation established fully equal rights for African Americans. (with thanks to Krugman for those two examples)

Something has to start the process. As Krugman noted, every time a healthcare bill has come back after a defeat, it's come back in a weaker form. At this rate, the next bill will start out even worse than this one is now, so it's better to start with what we've got and try to improve it, rather than starting again from scratch.

Sure, everyone here can draft 100 better bills than the one currently rattling through the Senate, but we can either try to work with what we have or accept the likelihood that its successor will be even worse.


Krugman's a hell of a lot smarter than I am in these matters, so I'm willing to accept his assessment.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:18 AM
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4. Both actually worked on Day one. Now, several generations later, they work better.
Well .... except for the voting *machines* ..... but you get the idea.

The concept is a good one. The problem is the bill as it exists today. Look at the phase-ins. This is an act of kicking the can down the road for the benefits, but immediate profiteering for the insurance companies.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:21 AM
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5. Well, at the risk of going to the well too often...
Krugman noted that, with this bill, 30 million will have some coverage where they currently have nothing. That's a start.

I'm certainly not thrilled that the insurance companies are getting another (huge) handout, but if it gives some comfort to those 30 million, I'm content that it's a start and that, several generations later, it will work better.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:46 PM
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2. somewhere over the rainbow skys are blue...
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