Obama promised to unite the country, and he has done it...

[Ozymanithrax]

The right and left are united against his fiscal policy on main street and wall street.

Tea-baggers and progressives are united against the Health Care Bill.

Free Republic and Democratic Underground sound like a duet in a Hollywood musical.

Bush couldn't do that in eight years. It is actually quite amazing when you think about it.

Never has one man done so much to piss off so many in such a short time.

[ShortnFiery]

1. Well put!

"Never has one man done so much to piss off so many in such a short time."

[Ozymanithrax]

3. Paraphrasing Winston Churchill is fun...

and you can apply the rhythm to almost anything.

[Solomon]

10. Hell, all the man has to do is breathe.

Pisses people off.

[still_one]

2. The real question is, what do the independts think? They are the ones who determine election

outcomes

[Ozymanithrax]

5. If the left deserts Obama and the Democrats it won't matter what they think...

In the midterms, turnout is smaller and partisan voting is usually the determining factor, especially with most seats having been gerrymandered to ensure the incumbent stays in power. It will depend on whether Republcians remain divided, though Obama has proven a reliable unifying factor for them.

I think 2012 is too far away. His popularity is still realtively good. Presidents always lose popoularity in the midst of governing.

[still_one]

7. Probably, but I know some republicans who would sit it out /nt

[Ozymanithrax]

11. For Republicans, I think a bigger problem will be the question of who is Conservative enough...

If the Teabagger wing is successful in primary challenges, there will likely be people that some on the right simply can not support. But it is impossible now to guess what kind of factor that will be.

Personally, I would never sit out an election. I consider voting a responsibility and will try to vote for the person I feel best suited to the office.

[still_one]

13. If they choose a palin or teabagger like candidate, they will never get the independent support

[ShortnFiery]

6. To me, Independents are the quintessential *me toos* ... they vote for who's winning ...

or who the whores in the M$M declare "the winners."

Independents are the easily swayed populace ... or what is termed the SHEEPLE.

[frylock]

12. i'm an independant and i vote on policy..

i've also voted a straight dem ticket the last four elections. i will no longer do that.

[dana_b]

15. gee, thanks

:sarcasm:

I do not vote for whomever the MSM decides is "best". I decide, thanks very much. Usually I vote for the most progressive/liberal people that I know of, although that doesn't always work out.

[DerekG]

22. I'm an independent, and voted for Ralph Nader

And I'm feeling pretty goddamn vindicated right now, thanks.

[Buzz Clik]

4. "Free Republic and Democratic Underground sound like a duet in a Hollywood musical." Indeed!

Makes you proud to be associated with that crowd of total assholes, eh? Be mindful of the company you keep.

[ShortnFiery]

8. Nothing is "that simple." I do know that far too many of our dem reps are loyal to CORPORATIONS

before their constituents.

We are against the corporate democrats but for vastly different CORE reasons.

[Ozymanithrax]

9. I noted that your reasons were different.

But the fight over corporations is, primarily, a campaign finance problem. Until we fix that, we will live with this problem and work within the system to create what good we can.

[CynicalObserver]

23. Follow the money is as old as government itself. It isn't going to substantially change

Money talks. There are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake in managing what congress passes or doesn't pass, not to mention the huge market the cap and trade bill will create for agencies and persons setting up for carbon credit trading.

I really don't have a viable idea on a reality-based change where multinationals and foreign creditors cease to have substantially more influence on policy and spending than the tax sheep.

Honestly I think most of the domestic-policy items used to divide the population are distractions to keep the voting population focused on things that don't involve the federal debt, the imminent devaluation of the dollar, and any number of gravely serious issues facing the well

[SemiCharmedQuark]

14. The only thing Obama did to piss of the teabaggers was exist.

[MadBadger]

16. Bullshit

And you wont be able to find facts to back ur your claim that the right and left are united against his fiscal policies.

[Heywood J]

17. Really - you're supporting TARP and the Goldman Sachs bailout these days?

Or his policy of throwing more money into the military toilet? Even under Bush, we didn't have trillion-dollar deficits...

[Ozymanithrax]

18. You should also add that the right is calling for Bernanke to be thrown out..

They solidly opposed the bail outs because it is antithetical to their capitalist world view. In fact, most of the right has called for all of Obama's fiscal team to be fired. Like Health care, their reasons are different. Never the less, they are calling for the same thing.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

20. No. They oppose the bailouts because OBAMA is president.

They had no problem with Bush's fiscal policies.

[Ozymanithrax]

21. Actually, they opposed the first bunch of bailouts initiated by Bush.

They continue to oppose them. It is not an Obama thing, but comes out of a drive for ideological purity.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. Yes. Obama is worse than Bush.

[Renew Deal]

24. Never has one man done so much to piss off so many republicans in such a short time.

He's still quite popular amongst Americans and Democrats.

[eridani]

25. Not true. When the Supreme Court decision legaizing taking of private property

--in the service not of the public, but of other private interests, both DU and FR exploded in rage. They because they hate any kind of public good, and we because fucking over little guys in favor of big guys discredits the idea of public goods which we are committed to.