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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:09 PM
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Liz Cheney Accuses Obama Of Slandering CIA In Nobel Speech: 'Shameful' - Sam Stein/HuffPo
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President Obama's speech accepting the Nobel Peace Prize this past week has won unlikely plaudits from conservatives, who say he injected a bit of militaristic realism into a committee founded on the lofty notion of world peace.

But not everyone is applauding. Liz Cheney, the daughter of the former vice president and one of the most tenacious defenders of the Bush administration's use of torture, accused the president on Sunday of slandering the CIA during his Nobel address. Her basis: that Obama criticized American actions at GITMO.

From Cheney's appearance on Fox News Sunday:

There were certainly parts of his speech with which I wholeheartedly agree. And I think it was really good frankly to have the president finally enunciate some of these things, talk about the insufficiency of engagement with respect to dealing with terror, or dealing with enemies; talk about the importance of America supporting democracy around the world, and also talk about the role that America has played, particularly in post World War II Europe. I think the key now will be whether the policies follow that. And I certainly hope that they do.


But we still had in this speech, you know, it is almost like it has become reflexive, this notion that America abandoned its ideals after 9/11. And I think that as we see this president repeatedly go on foreign soil, and accuse America of having tortured people, talk about Guantanamo Bay as an abandonment of our ideals, you know, that part of the speech to me really is nothing short of shameful. And it is not just an attack on political opponents. It really is casting dispersions and, I would say, slandering the men and women in the CIA who carried out key programs to keep us safe and the people frankly right now at Guantanamo Bay who are guarding some of the worst terrorists.' So I think that part of the speech represents something I hope the president will stop soon.


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Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/13/liz-cheney-accuses-obama_n_390215.html

Look, you Bad Seed Bimbo... it was YOUR traitorous father and his lapdog henchmen that committed treason by outing a CIA agent and destroying a covert operation!

So shove it up your ass!!!

:mad:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:11 PM
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1. I equate Liz Cheney with PopTarts.
As PopTarts are to nutritional health, Liz Cheney is to sociopolitical acuity.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 03:08 PM
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24. I think of her more like an ugly hair disfiguring a perfectly good mole.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 06:13 PM
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27. Yep. She coulda been a contenda.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:14 PM
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2. Another sociopathic Republican. She can bite me nt
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:15 PM
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3. And the Cheneys KNOW shameful.
:puke:
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM
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4. Go fuck yourself Liz.
Signed,
Valerie Plame
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM
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5. If Liz thinks she speaks for the CIA then perhaps an apology for certain of their actions...
Would make more sense falling out her mouth
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM
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6. That's utterly ridicious and simply not worthy of The Huffington Posts's time. n/t
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM by Writer
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:20 PM
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11. The Huffington Post is shit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 03:11 PM
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25. The venue has gone steadily downhill. Too bad. n/t
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:21 PM
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12. I think it fits right in with all the other crap they post over there.
I have no idea why so many read that shit site.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:17 PM
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7. Who?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:17 PM
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8. No Liz(ard)
He was talking about your war criminal daddy.

Now as your daddy suggested go fuck yourself.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:19 PM
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9. "Casting dispersions"??????
From Urban Dictionary.com:
"Often misunderstood as 'Casting Aspersions', this ancient term derived from the Spanish 'Castio Dispersionio' referrs to the encanting of the magic spell 'Dispersions' causing, as the name suggests, the target of the spell to break up and scatter before you.
Nathan : Now you're just casting dispersions
Sam : No Nathan, it's 'casting aspersions'
Nathan : It fucking well is not!"


And this from World Wide Words.com:
" From Mariah Blackhorse: A friend of mine took to contemplating the term cast dispersions and emailed me with his findings from searching the web. I always thought the term was cast aspersions but apparently both are, or have been, in usage. What are the origins and usage of these terms?

Cast dispersions is an excellent example of a malapropism: using the wrong word through ignorance. The term is named after Mrs Malaprop, a comic character in Richard Brinsley Sheridan’s The Rivals, who constantly seeks to sound high-flown but fails catastrophically because she doesn’t know what the words she is using really mean. So she says of her daughter, “She should have a supercilious knowledge in accounts; and as she grew up, I would have her instructed in geometry, that she might know something of the contagious countries”.

In this case, aspersion is a relatively uncommon word and dispersion seems to fit better. Originally, aspersion was the action of sprinkling somebody with something, usually water — it was commonly used of one form of Christian baptism, for example. It comes from slightly older verbs asperse and asperge, both of which can be traced back to Latin aspergere, to sprinkle.

Around the middle of the seventeenth century, aspersion began to refer to the figurative idea that a person was sprinkling his neighbourhood with damaging imputations or false statements. Our modern idiom to cast aspersions seems to have been first used by Henry Fielding in his novel Tom Jones of 1749."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:21 PM
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14. When casting dispersions, I strive to use 6-pound test line.
I like the way it flies off the reel, and it's easier to direct in a cross wind.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:19 PM
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10. Apparently Liz Cheney is an enormous moron, too.
I would think she means 'casting aspersions'. And apparently torturing people in the name of 'national security' is only bad when it was people like the KGB and Gestapo doing it.

(Also? NOT clicking the link. Find a better source. I refuse to give HuffPo any traffic because of their endorsement of anti-scientific vaccine conspiracy nutters.)
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:21 PM
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13. She's such a good daughter...
Working so hard to keep her father from assuming his proper place in history alongside other notables like Stalin, Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Augusto Pinochet, Caligula, Joe McCarthy, George Bush, Slobodon Milosevic...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:22 PM
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15. How does one slander the CIA? Kinda like "slandering" the Mafia.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 03:12 PM
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26. Very funny and true. Lol
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:26 PM
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16. And this is what passes and Intelligentsia on the right these days......
Dumb as a .......





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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:30 PM
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17. What's that saying about slander? If it's TRUE, it isn't slander? (nt)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:31 PM
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18. I think the fact I have to share oxygen with Liz Cheney is shameful.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:33 PM
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19. There must be no criticism of the president in a time of war
Just not gonna be allowed. It gives direct aid and comfort to the enemy.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:21 PM
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20. That nattering nabob of nepotism!
Of course, one shouldn't criticize the CIA--unless one is Dick Cheney:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE59T4YK20091030



And of course she's saying something we *never* heard before:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N25208112.htm (except from ol' Dick himself, like ever since Obama took office.)


At least when Dick goes on tv, he's a pirate. She's just the parrot. I really don't see why people bother with her.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 03:05 PM
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23. Very good!
That nattering nabob of nepotism!
Posted by vixengrl


I like adapting the words of dear old Spiro to match the current hawkish rhetoric displayed by the Lizard.

Absolutely appropriate for this representative of the Effete Corps of Impudent Snobs.


Carry on Vixengrl, well done.



Just my dos centavos

robdogbucky
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:47 PM
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21. Hmm did dick turn her loose or what.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:52 PM
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22. the turd doesn't fall far from the hores's ass.
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 03:21 PM by spanone
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 06:25 PM
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28. Did she really say, "casting dispersions"?
:rofl:
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