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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:36 PM Original message |
Congressman Kucinich’s Response to President Obama’s “Just War” Doctrine |
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keep_it_real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. On some points Kucinich is right on, on others forget it. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. well, that was helpful. nt |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
84. I think the hubris is just too much for the "concern" brigade to cover... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. On some points keep_it_real does, on others not so much. n/t |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. 5th Kick From Me (nt) |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kucinich is such an idiot |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I don't know |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That they're wrong? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Deleted message |
WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. HA |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. It's your whole over-the-top rhetoric about anyone you disagree with... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I can't help it that Kucinich is an idiot. n/t |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. gee, one of those "real democrats" with a small d |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yep, Kucinich has some cheezy talking points all right! n/t |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Nasty ad hominem--for those scoring at home. nt |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Well if the "wishing a person is tombstoned" didn't get deleted |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. why are you responding to "Ignored"? (n/t) |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
157. And that might be why he isn't! |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. Sure does n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
120. And just why is he an idiot? |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. "The Idiot" in good company though . . . |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. All the people you mentioned actually ACCOMPLISHED things. Dennis gets nothing done. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
85. Can you please list Obama's accomplishments during his stay at the senate |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
121. That must be why he keeps getting elected over and over again. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
151. + 10000 |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #151 |
160. . . . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Ooooh! A dishonest one sentence recap |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
34. Ah, I see. So you think that spending trillions of dollars and thousands of |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. And you are |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. WeDidIt, there's an old saying that it's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #90 |
138. bertman... Hammer Hits Nail! I'm Going To Try To Stay Nice About ALL |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
149. Kucinich isn't the moron in this thread. His reaction is thoughtful and proround. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
152. Kucinich isn't the idiot here |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nice rhetoric - a bit over the top and a lot detached from actual policy making |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
70. Deleted sub-thread |
ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. "War is often not just; sometimes it is just war." What the hell does that mean? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Kucinich is just a showboater |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. He is not accountable to the voters in his district? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. What does that have to do with the fact Dennis gets nothing accomplished? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. It has to do with the fact he is accountable.. |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. Compare him to other liberals or Dems |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
122. Has has prevented Cleveland from privitizing their public electric company |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Pathetic |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Deleted message |
OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
111. Demand loyalty oaths! |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. And here it is again! |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
72. I wouldn't have phrased it that way but think he said 'war for the sake of war' |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
145. It means that sometimes it is plain war (merely war) without just cause. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. War is not ineveitable. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. some folks hate him for saying that.. nt |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Truth hurts, |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. There's only one justification for war... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. Reminds me of that famous saying, "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." Bertrand Russell |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Those are great quotes! |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. No difference between Bush Doctrine and Obama Doctrine |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. Completely untrue |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. you're missing the 3rd group |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
117. How fatalistic! |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
137. I never said "we gotta go sometime" |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
112. What did Afghanistan have to do with the 9/11 attack? |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. The Taliban supported Al Qaeda |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. That's bs |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
132. Here's your starter kit |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. All I see is some vague circumstantial evidence |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. where did you hear or read that? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
144. Let me speak up for a 4th group. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. Proud to K&R |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. The daily whine from Kucinich |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Their party is called the Democratic Party |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
71. More coopting of RW talking points by |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. No kidding! I need some fresh air. I swear Jesus himself would be called names here. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. It is far too prevalent now. |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I agree it is getting harder to stay |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. That is exactly what happens when one puts party/leader before country/society... |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. It smacks of desperation |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #82 |
146. Kucinich scares the hell out of the Rightards because he speaks the truth |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
150. What happened is that there is a "D" in the White House. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
124. If Kucinich is a loser why does he keep getting re elected? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. I think he needs a primary opponent. nt |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
125. sure, put a centrist up against him and he will likely win |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
31. knr nt |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
32. Lotta dissonance here boggling my little mind. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. K&R |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
42. K&R |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Kucinich has something to say about almost everything... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Fuck the DLC! |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
73. More coopting bullshit from the Republicans |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
126. He makes proposals which are actually good for the people |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
44. K&R |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
45. "once we believe in the inevitability of war, war becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy" |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
46. Once again, I agree with Kucinich's words, but... |
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WT Fuheck (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
47. War is often not just; sometimes it is just war. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
50. an honest representative |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. +1 |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. There is some cold arithmetic against which Kucinich must battle. |
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bowlerhat (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. "a more integrated analysis" indeed |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. I value Kucinich at a philosophical level but in politics a white-knuckled |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
128. 6 out of 10 likely means that |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #128 |
155. The voters are out there, no matter their party. |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. Justification of war is bullshit |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. Would Kucinich have opposed using force against Germany in WWII? |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. He didnt oppose using force on September 18th 2001 |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. So, he voted for the war in Afghanistan before he voted against it? |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. for your consideration |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
129. Had FDR before Pearl Habor? |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
58. Those who oppose change are de facto conservatives. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. But an effective rescue mission requires a healthy horse. |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You speak of an indictment of the Democratic Party not Dennis. nt |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. The numbers suggest that the Democratic Party is in better shape than |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
147. Yep, it's all about winning. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #147 |
158. Whoops Don't forget that in order to realize one's ideals |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
107. Yeah, he didn't have a catchy slogan. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #107 |
142. He didn't have any organization or plan to form one either. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
130. you know damn well that most people still listen to bullshit corporate media |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #130 |
143. I don't think Kucinich is crazy at all. I like him. A lot. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
60. K&R |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
67. Then maybe the esteemed Congressman Kucinich should not have voted for war. n/t |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. He didnt |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. What did he think he was voting for then? |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. He was voting for the authorization of force against the people who attacked us |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. He was voting to authorize the president to send US military forces abroad |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. we're fighting resistance to our occupation in Afghanistan, not 9-11 terrorists |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. And there's an argument to be made for that. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. he authorized chasing the fugitive terror suspects into Afghanistan |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. He authorized force against Afghanistan for any number of reasons |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. the Taliban resistance he's escalated the force and activity against are not the same |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. My argument was just about the claims about DK's vote. |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. You are aware that a nation didnt attack us on September 11th right? |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I'd suggest you re-read the resolution, and try to argue in good faith. |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Afghanistan isn't mentioned in the resolution |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Anybody with two brain cells to rub together knew what that resolution meant. n/t |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. And yet you dont understand that it is no longer September 2001 |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Can you point me to the sunset clause in the resolution? n/t |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. can you point me to anything remotely rational |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. I'm not going to reiterate all of the arguments in favor of the war to you. |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. It is an opprutunity for Kucinich haters to get their hate on |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. I see very little in the way of hate in any of my statements. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #101 |
131. I thought it meant we would invade Saudi Arabia. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Then it's a good thing you weren't in any position to vote on it. n/t |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. I'm not arguing he's a hypocrite, |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. I would like POTUS Obama to publically address: |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. You are not going to get an answer from him, so I offer an article by Chomsky providing context: |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Don't expect answer and expect most won't notice |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
87. Kucinich is full of shit. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. really |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
133. There is plenty of evil in the USA. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
102. K&R. He said it so well. //nt |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
108. K&R |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
136. Assuming that war is inevitable is an admission of failure. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
139. Good for Dennis. k&r n/t |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
140. AMEN!!!!!!!! |
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sheldon (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
141. Right on, Dennis!!!!!!!!!! What a great man. A true human being. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
148. K&R!! n/t |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
153. K&R |
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d3m0l1sh3r (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
154. But at this point.. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
156. kick |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
159. He said it well. |
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Cassandra2010 (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-14-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
161. Good going Dennis |
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