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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:01 AM Original message |
Matt Taibbi: Obama's Big Sellout |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. The audacity of truth! |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. "Waiters," this is exactly what you don't get about Obama |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. And Wes Clark. nt |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. wouldn't it be funny if he ran in 2012. Dean! |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. I am starting to wear out my pom poms cheering all this change. |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. "There was concern that a broad grant to ban abusive swaps would be unsettling," Frank explained. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
118. That one got me, too. |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. OMG.....this is huge. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. It's all eleven dimensional chess, played by an unequalled master.. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Obama is juggling nitroglycerin peddling backward on a unicycle he inherited from George Bush. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 06:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Nice imagery. At some point, people will no longer believe this |
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wuvuj (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
67. yea...the bike fell over? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Yeah, and he recruited a bunch of arsonist firebugs to help him catch the nitroglycerin |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I get it, but some people still believe this and it is getting really old. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. When you explain to your grandchildren why they're eating cat food, show them this article. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Dude! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. ++1 nt |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. +++1 |
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Fire1sKid (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. +1 |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Oh SHIT. Post of the month. (and who was getting PLAYED). |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Off topic but I had to respond....they already are eating |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
96. Someday, |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. Bookmarked for later.. K&R |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. pls read this too: |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
10. Damn, 55 unrecs for this. A lot of people are afraid of the truth. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Lots of Key Board Commandos |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Truth is truth regardless of Recs or UnRecs, but how do you count UnRecs? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Thread's on the Top Tens page, under Just Recs |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. They know it, they are just afraid to acknowledge it. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Where is the unrec counter? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. You can calc the unrecs if the post is on the Top Tens page |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I have been to the greatest page, Seen the top 10 list, and still not seen the unrecs count. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. There's a "Just Recs" list |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Thanks |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
68. I guess so. Considering it's been debunked. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. You should look up the work "debunked". I don't think it means what you think it means. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. You should go look up the worth "truth." |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Um... I didn't use the word in my post, but thanks for playing. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. #10 |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. If you have to explain it... |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
100. wow... the critique is a clear eyed factual debunk of Taibbi's errors |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #100 |
110. Once again, it's helpful to actually read the article we're discussing. |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. the whole critique- there is no reason to post it if you actually read and understood it. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Pardon me while I die of not-surprise. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. reading fire dog lake is making me sick: |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Thank you for that link -- |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Yes, thank you for the link. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
56. Here's link to video of Obama's Speech to Hamilton Project |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. Obama's 9/11, so to speak |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
93. it should bring them down |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. I hope the scandal leads to the end of the |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
20. a really tough read, that article. Check this out: |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
80. Excuse me, could you provide a link to the 23.7 trillion. |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
90. Never mind a July article, here is the link, ... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
22. The Ugly Truth. But let's call this for what it is: ENRON Part 2 or is it Part 3 or Part 4...? |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
25. This is a dupe post |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. sorry about that , sg. |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Its okay it happens |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Agreed. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. Good! I Saw The First Post AND All Those Who Were Dissing Taibbi! |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. On contrary, thank you very much for posting this again! |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Absolutely nothing uncool about it. See post #36. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. dupe posts are perfectly acceptable in GD, just not in Latest Breaking News. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. . |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
32. When a presidential candidate won't take public funds so he can keep his donors hidden, |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Exactly. That should have been the first warning sign. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. THAT was a sign. NO Democrat would forego public financing, |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Things that make you go, "Hmmmm": |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
112. Many of us that were on the ground in Iowa did ask the questions and we were sending out Alarms |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. There were lots of cheerleaders, mostly campaign operatives and many of them on this board |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. huge K&R |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kicked |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
45. "They don't care about you at all, at all, at all." - George Carlin on Who Controls America |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R - Taibbi knocks the facts out of the park-home run! |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R. I have been trying so hard to hold on to some hope. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. yeah, 'support' of John Yoo?! there's a red alert in the face |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Definitely not change I can believe in. //nt |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. But, it's change you can make believe in! |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. Obama is more of a traitor than we could have imagined. He's been bought and sold. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Good point. His could have been a transformative presidency |
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Mike K (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. The Amicus Brief: |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
101. Succinct and to the point. Good post. |
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Scarsdale Vibe (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
123. Taibbi has found his niche playing to gullible people who love to feel outraged. |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Did you read his piece? |
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Scarsdale Vibe (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Of course I read the piece. |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Nice response at AP. I'm still not so sure that O hasn't baited and switched himself because |
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DebbieCDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. And now there's "no money" for job creation? Cute. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R. nt |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. Was candidate Obama |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
116. Perhaps another kind of Trojan..... |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
60. After reading the entire piece, ... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
72. K&R |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
75. . |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
76. This thread has 149 recs and 74 posts. 2400 views. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Actually, it has 182 recs, according to the Top Tens page. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. That makes 33 Unrecs. Rather telling. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. And the other thread of the same name had 45. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. It is disheartening. Reality hits us in the face sometimes, unpleasantly. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
78. What I find so enlightening is.... |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
83. blah blah blah- more conspiratorial partisan hyperbole from Taibbi. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. "been widely reported" |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. more willful ignorance and opinions based on hearsay. They have consistently supported reform |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Next time, you might try actually *reading* the articles you link to |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #105 |
114. why would you assume i didn't read them? That's a lazy way to deflect an argument |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. I assume you didn't read them because I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. I appreciate that you at least provided links and an argument instead of just |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
84. Oh boy oh boy oh crap.... |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
88. Why doesn't our Press ask Obama |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. The Press wants to run the Nation. |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. I just hope a coupe of good men or women |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
92. Now ..we are not stupid .we as in ..all of us here on DU |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
95. And the beat goes on, |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
98. I'm 2/3 of the way through this article and have put it down |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Shame Obama family & close friends |
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cowcommander (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
103. Follow the money, follow the money |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. There was one guy devoted to that more than anyone else on the planet |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. Ugh, I'm now living abroad and hadn't heard of his passing, ... |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Audit Review. Mark Pittman CJR Interview from last February |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. Thanks, copied the link and read the article, ... |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Anytime :-) |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
104. tough read...i knew wall street, congress and the white house were incestuous |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
107. Excellent, Excellent article, read the WHOLE article for ones self BEFORE |
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d3m0l1sh3r (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
108. This stuff makes it harder to defend him |
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109. Kick. |
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111. Actually, my heart sank |
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113. kick |
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120. THE QUESTION IS: Is Obama A Big Sellout? |
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125. What Taibbi lacks in talent and accuracy.... |
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