After 9/11, I said we would be in Afghanistan for a generation

[joecool65]

Being honest, how much do you really know about Afghanistan?
Are you just against increased military involvement in Afghanistan because you are just plain anti-war, because you were around during Vietnam, because you opposed the war in Iraq, etc...?
These are just questions I am asking that are more self-reflective than necessarily meant to be replied to on this thread.
From the onset of Bush's military escapades in Afghanistan, I said to those who would listen to me that we do not have enough soldiers in Afghanistan and we are not doing enough to reconstruct that nation. The reason that Obama has to deal with things now in the present form is because Bush screwed up in Afghanistan, plain and simple.
I have said since 9/11 that Saudi Arabia is the ideological center of the war, Pakistan/Afghanistan is the practical/operational center of the war. Iraq was just an unnecessary distraction.
People need to stop being so ideological on here and start being practical.

This site is becoming the mirror image of free republic. People are just reacting out of ideology, not out of practicality.

Ideology sounds good in textbooks and conversations.
Practicality wins elections and governs.

People need to understand we are in it for the long haul in Afghanistan in one form or another.

[lxlxlxl]

1. completely agree...practicality and long term goals

He set a date and sent some reinforcements. Everyone on here is sobbing and crying or worse. I think he is trying his hardest to make a horrible situation work, and am still glad he is our president instead of a McCain or Hillary. That said, Obama's legacy is almost 100% percent reliant on who takes his office after he leaves. If he leaves the office to another GOP goon or Bush-lite, then this country is fucked, and for that reason I am somewhat sensitive to what his supporters think and believe.

Promising to run another candidate, or working against Obama will just re-elect another GOP goon, and where will the anti-war strategy go from there? It's as if no one on here learned from Nader / Gore / b*ush in 2000.

For me, I never expected state building to work and never expected anything like it in Afghanistan. That is a bunk ideal to begin with, and as someone that studied its obvious how harmful terrorism is to any domestic or international progressive agenda. We have lost a tragic amount of energy and time on foreign terrorism, and for that I want a definitive end to the Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden chapter on our lives. I want the guys head on a plate, grainy video footage of his corpse, whatever, as a symbol and as a concrete objective.

[PVnRT]

2. How many dead Afghans and soldiers are elections worth?

Is it acceptable for 10,000 or 100,000 people to die over there so that Obama can win in 2012?

[Duende azul]

3. So practice "practicality". Enlist.

[Subdivisions]

4. How many Afghanis hijacked those planes? n/t

[Phentex]

5. I'm just plain anti-war...

and I don't know how to stop being that way. I haven't heard a single argument in my life that can change it.

[Echo In Light]

6. Succinct

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