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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 03:43 AM
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Huckabee issues a statement on the tragic killings
'The senseless and savage execution of police officers in Washington State has saddened the nation, and early reports indicate that a person of interest is a repeat offender who once lived in Arkansas and was wanted on outstanding warrants here and Washington State. The murder of any individual is profound tragedy, but the murder of a police officer is the worst of all murders in that it is an assault on every citizen and the laws we live within.'

'Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State. He was recommended for and received a commutation of his original sentence from 1990, making him parole eligible and was paroled by the parole board once they determined he met the conditions at that time. He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him. It appears that he has continued to have a string of criminal and psychotic behavior but was not kept incarcerated by either state. This is a horrible and tragic event and if found and convicted the offender should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Our thoughts and prayers are and should be with the families of those honorable, brave, and heroic police officers.'



I think he's trying to distance himself and his partial ownership to this tragedy



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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 03:55 AM
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1. Where's the mea culpa?
no "for which I am in part responsible"? It's the least he can do with his bloodstained hands.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:05 AM
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2. That omission is really offensive. He should at the very least explain why
HE commuted the sentence.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:38 AM
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6. Republicons don't DO responsibility. It's not one of their 'family values'
Republicons are buck passers, blamers, and whiners -- as they prove over and over and over to the dismay of Americans.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:16 AM
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3. well we now what to use against him if he decides to run in 2012
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:36 AM
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4. this is disgusting
local news only repeated the statement that he blamed the criminal justice systems in AR and WA.
He needs to own up to his responsibility in this.

Huckabee better not come to Washington state any time soon.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:27 AM
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5. His gross, deliberate pass-over of his own pardon of the guy WILL
bite him in the ass in the coming day.5

Looks like he is blaming everyone else though
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:41 AM
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7. You are hamburger, Mike Huckabee.




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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:41 AM
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11. +1
Hilarious
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:46 AM
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8. Lookit him spray blame in every direction
but at himself. The chump's got chutzpah.

And no fucking honor.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:54 AM
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9. Now, now, now. He's a Republicon, and they are 'special'
You can't possibly be expecting a republicon to step up to the plate and act with honor, can you?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:31 AM
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10. Hucky is yucky and will go down in flames should he throw his hat
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:55 AM
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12. Uh...you granted him clemency, Huckabee
Over the objections of prosecutors. So this whole big mess, well you own it now.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:43 AM
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14. The state of Washington released him just 6 days before the murders.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:54 AM
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18. And he'd still be in Arkansas
if Hucklenuts hadn't set him loose.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:02 AM
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20. And he'd still be in jail in Washington if that state hadn't released him.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:18 AM
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34. Who's the Hucklenuts in WA?
Just asking.
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mgcgulfcoast Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:53 AM
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17. he is making a weasel statement
4 police officers are dead because of him in my opinion.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:40 AM
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13. What is the difference between this and Dukakis-Willy Horton?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:50 AM
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15. One governor was a criminal-loving commie
and the other a Family Values Law and Order type.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:58 AM
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19. I don't think anyone here considered Dukakis a criminal loving commie.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:06 AM
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21. No, I don't expect anyone would
Least of all, me. Dukakis and liberals at large are routinely tarred as criminal lovers.

Republicans are tough on crime hardasses.

...who let criminals loose to kill cops.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:19 AM
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22. That would be the state of Washington which released him.
He was in jail for several months in that state facing 7 felony charges yet he was released. Why? Somebody in Washington is probably shitting bricks right now hoping that all attention is focused on Huckabee.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:39 AM
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26. Uh, yeah
I know, you've said it enough times. I don't know what insistently eliding Huckabee's culpability does for you, but he's going to take a hit for it, deservedly so. Washington will get its lumps, but it won't be for having a hang 'em high GOP governor turning criminals out.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:50 AM
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27. What I see going on is people using this to win political points.
If Huckabee hadn't granted him clemency so that he could apply for parole, which he was by a parole board, the accused might still be in jail. At the least, he ought to be sitting in prison for violating that parole shortly after he was released.

Focusing exclusively on Huckabee doesn't do justice.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:00 AM
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29. That's exactly what's going on
The way Republicans have effectively clobbered opponents for decades. What of it?

What makes you think there'll be no justice? Washington won't get a pass and Huckabee getting Hortonized is a fine bonus. Sounds like justice all around.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:39 AM
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31. Your arguement then is that progressives are the same as Republicans.
They use the same methods and tactics to achieve their goals.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:17 AM
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33. Oooo-kay, here we go
Rewind to the beginning where I noted Dukakis was a criminal loving commie. Okay? There are no criminal coddlers in the GOP, only steely-eyed men who bury criminals. Yet, one of them pulled a Dukakis and is doing a "It whudn't me" tapdance right now. We've got one on the hook having done something they pillory us every 10 minutes for. Follow?

His hypocrisy is hanging out when he doesn't own up to failing the Republican no-clemency-or-you're-a-criminal-lover standard. We've bagged a genuine hypocrite who's hoisted himself on his own petard. And that IS different from what they do to us.

Of course, it's political, how could it not be? The crap they sling boomeranged back on one of their own and we're not supposed to rub their faces in it? Because it's unseemly? It gives you the vapors? What?

Again, everyone's aware Washington fucked up too. No one has suggested they get a pass. This thread's about Huckabee.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:24 AM
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35. But you're VALIDATING THE GOP STANDARD by focusing on Huckabee

If you focus on AR alone, aren't you really saying "The only way to keep this guy from killing again was to throw away the key or kill the guy, and Huckabee FAILED."

Be careful what message you send.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:37 AM
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37. No way
It's not validating their standard to revel in the fact that they don't follow their own standard. By that measure, we should've spent the last 2 years shushing and tut-tutting everybody in sight, because progressives think your sexual pecadilloes are private and no big deal.

And how many times do I have to say Washington doesn't get a pass? We're focussing on Huckabee because this thread is for laughing at his dumb ass.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:16 AM
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39. Again, by using the premise to slam Huckabee, you honor the premise.
Yes, you do. Sorry if you don't like it.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:32 AM
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40. Nope
Sorry the distinction isn't enough to pierce contrived sanctimony.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 01:15 PM
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41. It's not sanctimony
And I get the distinction just fine: you're not claiming anyone did or didn't do the ACTUAL right thing...you're just flinging poop. I thought this discussion had some policy implications. My bad.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 01:39 PM
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42. What, I don't get a HARRUMPH?
Ascend bodily to heaven already, your work is done.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:24 AM
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36. Has Huckabee ever slammed Dukakis...
or portrayed himself as a steely-eyed man who buried criminals? You're painting with a rather broad brush. Sure the Republicans labeled Dukakis and Democrats in general as being soft on crime and many people bought it. Do we adopt the same tactics as the Republicans solely because they had success with it. Are we not supposed to be different?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:57 AM
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38. Huckabee has to have slammed Dukakis
before he can be criticized? C'mon. And yes, he's talked the tough talk, God and punishment are the only things that set criminals straight, something liberals won't recognize.

I explained how this is different. You want me to do it again?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:51 AM
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16. Dumond the serial rapist and murderer
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 08:24 AM by Ichingcarpenter
Huckabee's pardons and commuted sentences as governor earned him extra attention during his bid for the Republican nomination in the 2008 presidential race. In 2007, Huffington Post published documents that contradicted Huckabee's story about the release of convicted serial-rapist Wayne Dumond in 1999. After Dumond was released from prison, he raped and murdered a 39-year-old woman and allegedly raped and murdered a pregnant 23-year-old woman before he was arrested and returned to prison.

While on the campaign trail, Huckabee has claimed that he supported the 1999 release of Wayne Dumond because, at the time, he had no good reason to believe that the man represented a further threat to the public. Thanks to Huckabee's intervention, conducted in concert with a right-wing tabloid campaign on Dumond's behalf, Dumond was let out of prison 25 years before his sentence would have ended.

"There's nothing any of us could ever do," Huckabee said... "None of us could've predicted what could've done when he got out."


But the confidential files show that Huckabee was provided letters from several women who had been sexually assaulted by Dumond and who indeed predicted that he would rape again - and perhaps murder - if released.



"None of the prosecutors were ever told why Huckabee felt compelled to have a hand in freeing so many prisoners, though all of them speculate that his deeply religious nature led to a strong belief in repentance and forgiveness. In some cases, prosecutors say, evangelical leaders attested that a prisoner had found Jesus and that seemed to influence the governor's thoughts."

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44004511
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:19 AM
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23. Mikey probably did mean well...
I mean, he probably just let that killer out so that the good Governor would have some room in his prison to lock up some evil assed pothead and get him off of the "Homeland's" streets, for the better good of all mankind.

Turning hard core criminals out on the streets to make room for potheads is about as smart as invading Iraq was. And the GOP is supposed to be the party that is best at providing our "National Security?" Our lawmakers need to lay off of their lovemaking long enough to pull their heads out of their lazy asses.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:26 AM
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24. Too late, Huckster -- now you have a "Willie Horton" all your own!
Bet your bottom dollar that the Klan wing of the GOP is already ginning this one up. Looks like the Huckster's not going to be in the running in 2012.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:34 AM
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25. Adios, Mike. Your ship just sailed.
Nice knowin' ya.......
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:00 AM
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28. He's just Dukakis'ed himself.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:01 AM
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30. Remember the Willie Horton posters that sunk Dukakis?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:42 AM
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32. So sings the weasel.
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