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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:38 PM
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We're a step closer to lab-grown steaks at the supermarket
Scientists have managed to grow a form of meat in a laboratory for the first time, according to reports.

Researchers in the Netherlands created what was described as soggy pork and are now investigating ways to improve the muscle tissue in the hope that people will one day want to eat it.

No one has yet tasted their produce, but it is believed the artificial meat could be on sale within five years.

Vegetarian groups welcomed the news, saying there was “no ethical objection” if meat was not a piece of a dead animal.

Mark Post, professor of physiology at Eindhoven University, told The Sunday Times: “What we have at the moment is rather like wasted muscle tissue. We need to find ways of improving it by training it and stretching it, but we will get there.

“This product will be good for the environment and will reduce animal suffering. If it feels and tastes like meat, people will buy it...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6680989/Meat-grown-in-laboratory-in-world-first.html
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:40 PM
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1. If it is better than current meat substitutes, I would try it!
But I doubt they could ever equal a really great steak. I would be thrilled if it were good enough for ground beef because I really haven't liked the veggie "crumbles" I have tried.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:51 PM
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7. Yea, I tried that vegiburger stuff ONCE! It was awful!!!
On one hand I hope this succeeds because it would eliminate a lot of the world's problems, BUT on the other hand I'me wary of what the hell it is? Lots of people believe ovesity is at least in part caused by high fructose corn syrup, and I don't think anyone knows what long term effect all the hormones that are being used on meat products are causing. Something is causing girls to mature much faster than in past years.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:40 PM
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2. Uh...
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:48 PM
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4. soylent green ?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:55 PM
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8. eww! That is so... so... yuck nt
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:20 PM
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13. "IT'S PEOPLE! IT'S PEOPLE!" nt
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:49 PM
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5. FRANKENFOOD FROM HELL!
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 08:50 PM by HopeHoops
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:55 PM
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9. I totally agree! nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:40 PM
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20. TECHNOPHOBIC HYSTERIA IS TEH SHIT!!!
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:45 PM
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21. Omg! You're getting intertron rays on me! (nt)
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dustbunnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:41 PM
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3. I think it's just amazing and wonderful and would definitely eat it.

We might even be able to save a few species, and oh yeah... the earth.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:26 PM
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16. Me too
There are so many issues this could address. Rampant clear-cutting, animal confinement, ruminant methane, waste effluvia pollution, crop diversion into animal feed, hormone and antibiotic contamination, vectors for diseases like flus and mad cow, e coli and salmonella poisoning...

And we could truly Save the Whales and everything else in our exhausted oceans for once. Plus, who knows, the American diet may improve. People might discover they prefer salmon over beef if it was cheap and plentiful.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:49 PM
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6. "saying there was “no ethical objection” if meat was not a piece of a dead animal."
Does it have a smaller carbon footprint?


(itd be hard to imagine it wouldn't, but who knows)
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:11 AM
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24. It's hard to imagine anything could have a larger CF than intensive corporate farming
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:05 PM
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10. These labs get a bad rap
My Lab is pretty Savvy

But, I really think she couldn't do that sort of thing





She's smart (her tirades over korean wedding dog, for example) but...

I think Labs are misunderstood.





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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:10 PM
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11. To those saying "yuck".... what is the big difference between this and
various processed foods, including vegetarian fake meats? Is it really that different?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:21 PM
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14. "It's unnatural!" they say.. on the Internet... (nt)
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:19 PM
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12. Good.
I won't have to feel so guilty about eating a steak anymore.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:22 PM
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15. i don't think that most americans will go for eating dogs...

here's mine.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:39 PM
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17. LOL! PETA will find something to whine and complain about
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:40 PM
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18. Yeah, that it's not made from real animals and therefore they have nothing to complain about!
:crazy:

Gotta love it... :D
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:25 AM
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33. See post #32. nt
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 03:14 AM
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28. People Eating Tasty Animals would certainly have cause for concern. nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:24 AM
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32. PETA Offers $1 Million Reward to Make In Vitro Meat
http://www.peta.org/feat_in_vitro_contest.asp

PETA Offers $1 Million Reward to First to Make In Vitro Meat

Scientists around the world are researching or seeking the funds to research ways to produce meat in the laboratory—without killing any animals. In vitro meat production would use animal stem cells that would be placed in a medium to grow and reproduce. The result would mimic flesh and could be cooked and eaten. Some promising steps have been made toward this technology, but we're still several years away from having in vitro meat be available to the general public.

PETA is now stepping in and offering a $1 million reward to the first scientist to produce and bring to market in vitro meat.

Why is PETA supporting this new technology? More than 40 billion chickens, fish, pigs, and cows are killed every year for food in the United States in horrific ways. Chickens are drugged to grow so large they often become crippled, mother pigs are confined to metal cages so small they can't move, and fish are hacked apart while still conscious—all to feed America's meat addiction. In vitro meat would spare animals from this suffering. In addition, in vitro meat would dramatically reduce the devastating effects the meat industry has on the environment.

Of course, humans don't need to eat meat at all—vegetarians are less likely to get heart disease, diabetes, or various types of cancer or become obese than meat-eaters are—and a terrific array of vegetarian mock meats already exist. But as many people continue to refuse to kick their meat addictions, PETA is willing to help them gain access to flesh that doesn't cause suffering and death.

MORE

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:40 PM
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19. Awesome! This is cool stuff!
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 12:30 AM
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22. I would support this fully.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 12:52 AM
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23. does this food offer vitamins etc. missing from vegetable protein?
are beans, nuts, etc. that bad?

I mean, it's an interesting idea. Does it serve a nutritional purpose, beyond taste and texture?

& I'll admit I didn't read the whole article.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:13 AM
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25. the "soggy pork" sounds like it needs a workout.
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 02:15 AM by Quantess
Obviously, the lab meat needs to tone & tighten.
Maybe if you plugged electrodes into the lab meat, it could get exercise that way.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:15 AM
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26. It's still animal tissue.
...but not a dead animal.

Interesting.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 02:17 AM
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27. yum. not. i'll stick with the old school meat, if that's ok. tofukey for the rest of you...
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 03:27 AM
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29. I'll have a number two with soggy pork
And a sake bomber
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:51 PM
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30. What proteins are in the "broth of other animal products"?
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 06:52 PM by tridim
And what about fat? Steak without fat tastes like crap.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:56 PM
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31. Life imitating art - this was on an episode of "Better Off Ted".
Great show. I'm not eating meat manufactured in a lab. I'll figure out how to raise a cow in my apartment first.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:27 AM
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34. The dystopic novel 'Feed' has a visit to a filet mignon farm.
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