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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:07 PM
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I haven't heard of any Vets giving up...

...their Socialized health care nor have I heard of anyone forgoing their Single-Payer health insurance (Medicare) coverage.

You would think out of all those Teabaggers that feel so strongly they would be flocking to the private sector for their coverage.
I realize, at least in the case of Medicare, that they have paid into the program and I don't begrudge those who are due however; you would think with how outspoken and vehement these folks are they would forfeit government ran health and insurance on principal alone.
You would think that.

I guess everyone has a price and some are way more hypocritical than others.


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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:15 PM
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1. Have you ever been in a veterans hospital for treatment or
ever had family member in one?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:18 PM
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3. yes - and my dad and mom both recieved exemplary care by the VA hospitals!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:50 PM
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7. My dad died in a veterans hospital in 1989. He was in two of them
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 09:05 PM by doc03
and both were run down, had outdated equipment, sheets with patches sewed in them and were badly understaffed. They do give them good care considering the conditions though. In his case the veterans hospital was his last resort and I am happy it was there. How he ended up there his Medicare ran out (Medicare covers 6 consecutive months in the hospital) and the public hospital more or less evicted him. A couple days before he had his 6 months in three doctors called my mother in and told her my dad could only live a week or two longer at best and they suggested she take him home to die or see if she could get him in a veterans hospital. My Uncle was a lifelong VFW member and was able to pull strings and get him transferred to a veterans hospital, my dad ended up living 7 years longer instead of one or two weeks. He had two major surgeries and they were done at a nearby University Hospital because they didn't have the expertise or equipment at the veterans hospital.

on edit: From what I see most (not all) people end up in a veterans hospital because they don't have insurance or are not old enough for Medicare. From what I have seen (I am a veteran) as long as I have insurance I would much rather be in a public hospital. But if there was nowhere else to go I am glad I could get in a veterans hospital as a last resort.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:16 PM
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2. Vets have "paid in" too, by their service.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:19 PM
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4. Let me be clear here


I want all Vets and Medicare recipients to receive what they are due and more.
That IS NOT MY POINT.

I am writing about those Vets and Medicare recipients who actively PROTEST AGAINST what they call "government ran health care".
These are the shitheads I am targeting.

Got it?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:24 PM
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5. Got it--thank you for clarifying.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:30 PM
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6. Was at Car Quest not long ago.
Two guys were talking about Obama's health care plan. They were saying that anything the government gets involved in turns out to be shit. Then one said he had to leave to go to the VA to pick up his prescription drugs.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 08:59 PM
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8. This is the stupidity that I get riled up at

These asshats that think like this...GRRRRRR...
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:53 PM
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9. I quite agree about that. For one thing, I have seen and known of
excellent health care from the VA.
I have also heard and been involved with many cases where the health care recipient was actually in the service for an extremely short period of time, less than 2 years, and then expects and receives life long medical care. On the thinnest of service related concepts.
Pure socialism. Yet many of the Vets squawk that it just is not enough.
dc
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