Why are the Senators and others just now in an uproar about Tora Bora??

[Are_grits_groceries]

If you google Tora Bora, there has been a lot of info out about the bungling with Bin Ladin since it occurred. They could have been raising hell about it long before this.

I used to shout Tora Bora at my teevee whenever people were smacking Clinton about his admin's failures. I'm sure my neighbors though I was watching old movies.

They'll discover that there was a mistake about WMDs in Iraq next.

[SpiralHawk]

1. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)

[Arkana]

2. All right, fellas--let's get to looking into these rumors about Teapot Dome.

[babylonsister]

3. Because a new Senate report was released...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7105566

Senate Report Explores 2001 Escape by bin Laden From Afghan Mountains

[Are_grits_groceries]

4. The Dems were in charge of the Senate since 2006.

They could have done something of the sort then. They could have tried to issue a minority report before that.

I don't wait on Senate reports about anything. :hi:

[gateley]

6. I'm thinking they couldn't have gotten it done during Bushco's

reign? In theory, yes, but with Cheney, Rumsfeld and their minions at the helm, maybe it wasn't possible.

[Are_grits_groceries]

9. I think there was enough info

available to make a stink about it. They might not have been able to point directly at Rumsfeld then, but they could have started a path.

[babylonsister]

12. What would that have accomplished in 06? For that matter, what is

this going to accomplish? Not much, I'm afraid.

[Are_grits_groceries]

13. It might have beat back some of the memes

that GWB was in no way responsible for 9/11. They are still pushing hard on the fact that they didn't have any foreknowledge either.
They let Bin ladin escape and they ignored viable intelligence from the security agencies.

I'll bet a lot of people still believe they are blameless.

I really don't know anymore what it does. It just pisses me off that they 'discover' old news that is a day late and a dollar short to say the least.

[blm]

19. Kerry hammered Bush on ToraBora since Jan2002, while our best known Dems refused to back him up

on this, even when he became the nominee and brought it up at the convention and during the debates. Did Clinton back him up - no - he stayed supportive of Bush's military leadership during his summer2004 booktour, and NEVER mentioned Kerry's analysis let alone give him back up for his pointed attack on ToraBOra.

Unfortunately, neither did other TV Dems, including (sad to say) Biden.

It took Kerry becoming head of SFRC to make this report happen.

Imagine if Kerry HAD the backup from powerful Dems on TV from Jan2002. Pointing out Bush's FAILED military leadership then on EVERY newschannel could have made the American public more wary of supporting his plan for Iraq later that year.

[EFerrari]

5. I hear some burglars broke into the Watergate!

[DJ13]

7. Diversion from a potential stock market collapse?

Oh look over there-------------->>>>>

SHINY!

[spanone]

8. it took 8 years and a greater democratic majority in congress to even give a shit..

republicans didn't give a flying turd for anything resembling accountablity when it came to the bu$h* cabal...they still don't

[Are_grits_groceries]

11. The Dems were capable of issuing minority reports

or making a stink about it on what was available then. They didn't have to wait for enough info to point directly at Rumsfeld. They could have started a path.

Maybe the Dixie Chicks could have made a song called 'Tora Bora.'

[eleny]

10. Paving the way for Obama's address on Tuesday...

Getting us to accept that "this time we're going to get done what could have been accomplished 8 years ago".

[tabasco]

14. My former division was sent into the valley.

I was wondering when the rest of the Army would arrive.

After all, this was the mission against the people who attacked us.

Unfortunately, the rest of the Army did not arrive.

They were on standby for the Bush cabal's illegal invasion of Iraq.

When Rummy the Dummy said we were letting the Pakistanis "guard the border" for us, I about blew a gasket.

The criminal Bush cabal put corporate profits above national security and abandoned the mission in Afghanistan.

[FarCenter]

15. Where was Stanley McChrystal during Tora Bora?

He was a special ops commander, right?

[Lint Head]

16. This is frigging absurd. There are only laws for certain criminals.

When killers like George Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Condi Rice and Karl Rove commit obvious murder they retire into wealth. Nobody's like me would be given the death penalty. Bernie Madoff made a misstep and became obvious or he would still be free. We have COWARDS running this country. Tora Bora was planned. George 'the murderer' Bush and his criminal cohorts needed the bogey man to stay alive to give them an excuse to commit crimes that anybody else would be punished for.

[Mass]

17. In fact, Kerry has been talking about it since 2003. However, the media discover it now.

(and between 2006 and 2008, I would not blame the dems for not issuing this report. There were more important things to do).

What is surprising is that the media cover it (and there is obviously an agenda behind the date of publication and the sudden interest of the media, I agree).

[AllentownJake]

18. Because they are Cowards

:shrug:

[karynnj]

22. Then give Kerry credit for speaking out in 2002

He was pretty lonely in doing so.

[AllentownJake]

23. Anyone who spoke out in 2002 was not a coward

Anyone who had the information and kept their mouth shut till after the criminals ran to their safe houses is a coward.

[tekisui]

20. Because we need a reminder before the surge?

[karynnj]

21. At the time it happened, Kerry spoke of "outsorcing the effort to

Afghan warlords who were allied with the Taliban just weeks before. He was attacked by nearly ever one including most Democrats in 2002. In 2004, Franks spoke of Kerry being completely wrong when Kerry again brought up the same issue and added that we diverted attention to attack Iraq.

[MadMaddie]

24. Because the media and the Reich wing crushed the original

reporting of Tora Bora! Remember while * was prez any talk of anything but good news was anti-American.

The 4th estate (Media) was an utter failure!!

[sojourner]

25. nah. it's distraction. theater. they don't really care about anything but their arses and their $$$

[Gman]

26. Kerry always has been outraged by Tora Bora

as many of us have always been. Nothing has changed. Nothing new.

[BeFree]

27. Yep

And now Kerry may be onto how the decision was made and who made that decision.

I think Kerry is putting together a setup that will lead to some serious heads being set on pikes.

We lost an awful lot by not electing Kerry in 2004.