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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:00 PM
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Scott Lively: American, European gays are to blame for harsh anti-gay laws in Uganda
Apparently we lgbts in the United States and Europe are to blame for the harsh anti-gay laws they are trying to pushing in Uganda.

At least that's the case according to anti-lgbt activist Scott Lively.

An article with the right-wing LifesiteNews.com said the following:

While a proposed and much-criticized anti-homosexuality law in Uganda is definitely too harsh, the law comes as a direct response to the heavy-handed pressure from international gay-activist politicians on Uganda to accept homosexuality as normal, according to one Christian expert who was recently in the African country to testify against the current wording of the bill. In fact, as Dr. Scott Lively, the President of Defend the Family pointed out, the preamble to the bill, and the bill itself contain numerous references to stopping international pressure on Uganda to accept Western sexual values that are abhorrent to Ugandan culture.

. . . Dr. Lively, a pro-family activist and attorney based in California was in Uganda in March to testify before Ugandan legislators now considering the legislation. In an interview with LifeSiteNews (LSN), Dr. Lively explained that the impetus for the bill was "a lot of external interference from European and American gay activists attempting to do in Uganda what they've done around the world - homosexualize that society." One of their main concerns, explained Lively, "are the many male homosexuals coming in to the country and abusing boys who are on the streets."

Of course Lively provides no evidence of his charges, especially the claim about gays coming into Uganda to rape street children. And I still can't shake my shock at the implications of his statements.

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14288/lively-american-european-gays-are-to-blame-for-harsh-antigay-laws-in-uganda
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:02 PM
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1. classic blame the victim crap. . . .n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:02 PM
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2. So many Christians, so few lions
Maybe we should convince another third-world country to start executing Christians. I wonder how they'd feel about that.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:05 PM
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4. +100, n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:04 PM
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3. Oh, so he's no longer fomenting bigotry in Oregon
He and Lon Mabon were the chief anti-gay agitators in Oregon when I lived there.

They were always seen together, and Mabon, at least, set off a lot of people's gaydar, so cartoonist John Callahan drew a cartoon in which two men were in a hotel room, both wearing leather masks, and one with fishnet stockings whipping the other. In the doorway stood a pizza delivery man, saying, "Oh, there must be some mistake. I have a pizza here for Mr. Mabon and Mr. Lively."
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:08 PM
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5. And apparently decided he's a "doctor" somewhere along the way.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:12 PM
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6. This is not a threat on my part....
It's just that with so many gay people of the "first wave" of gay rights (in the US at least) now past mechanical limits, and with there still being quite a few gay people who have terminal diagnosis, you would think that it would be a dangerous world for people like Lively.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:13 PM
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7. Apparently the term "pro-family" is now synonymous with "huge bigot".
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:18 PM
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9. When wasn't it?
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 09:19 PM by jgraz
Since I can remember, it's always been code for anti-women and anti-gay.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 04:27 PM
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8. For those who don't know, the law punishes not only gay people, but straight allies as well
It will be illegal to work, protest, organize, etc. for gay rights, and a person can also be punished if they know that a person is gay but do not turn that person in.

This law will turn thoughts into crimes, the very type of law that Lively and allies are always falsely calling the expanded hate crimes law.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 09:29 PM
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10. Uh, no you idiot it's the fucking C-Street CHRISTO-FASCISTS!!!
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