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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 10:01 AM
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Holy Trinity Lutheran Church Increases Payment to ELCA
While some Lutheran churches are suspending payments to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) in protest of its vote to roster actively gay preachers, a Minneapolis church is going the other way.

Holy Trinity Lutheran decided this week that it's going to increase its payment in hopes of making up some of the loss.

More at:
http://ow.ly/Gju2

Perhaps this would be a good thing for members of other ELCA churches to bring up in their own church.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 10:09 AM
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1. I've always thought of Lutherans as being essentially German Episcopalians- until I moved ...
.... moved near a Lutheran church. They are much more serious and evangelical. Those cars get there at 9 am on Sunday and they are still there at 4 PM. I'll have to remember to thank my mother for not dragging me to some all-day church when I was a kid.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:23 AM
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2. Lutheran churches pretty much run the gamut.
From churches with very traditional, conservative liturgies to churches on the very fringes of liberal Christianity, you can get anything you want at a Lutheran church. Including a terrific potluck supper or, horror or horrors, a lutefisk supper.

The ELCA is in the news, lately, for its acceptance of actively gay clergy. Some ELCA congregations are pulling out of the ELCA over this. The one I mentioned is not only not pulling out, but it is increasing its contribution to the ELCA Synod. Bravo to them.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:30 AM
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3. It very much depends on what synod the particular Lutheran church belongs to.
The ELCA's are much more liberal than the Missouri Synod. They really are apples and oranges in their tolerance for others.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:46 AM
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4. Well, since this church is increasing its contributions
to the ELCA, it's pretty obvious which synod it belongs to, I think.

The point here is that some ELCA churches are leaving the synod over this gay clergy issue. This one, notably, is not doing that and is trying to do what it can to promote that synod.

Reading is FUNdamental.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:52 AM
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5. Well my reading abilities are just fine.. and I was backing you up..
not everyone knows the foundations of the Lutheran Churches and their leadership modes.. I would dare to say most who are not Lutheran would not even know what the synods are.. so knowing that the ELCA is the one of the more tolerant synods.. where are these churches leaving too?

How important that Trinity is to supporting the ECLA synod..

man talk about prickly
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 11:58 AM
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6. Sorry. Your point was not clear.
As for the churches that are leaving, it appears that they are moving toward starting a new synod. They don't appear to be moving to the Missouri or Wisconsin Synods. Note: Michele Bachmann's church is a Wisconsin Synod church. The Wisconsin Synod is famous for its inclusion in its official doctrines the belief that the "Pope in Rome" is the Antichrist.

I believe there are one or two other splinter synods, but I can't recall their names right now.

So, it looks like a new synod will be appearing shortly, and the denominational beat goes on in the Christian world. Eventually it will be a separate denomination of Christianity for every household, each with it's own pet dogma in the back yard.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 12:10 PM
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7. That is okay.. I just did not want you to think I was disagreeing with you.. but yep ELCA's need
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 12:11 PM by Peacetrain
to be supported. Another synod.. yikes.. can it get any further right than Missouri or Wisconsin.. that is scary to think about. They are putting their politics in front of the teachings of Christ.. scary scary.

:hi:

My husband is from the cities..and we will be moving back in the next couple of years.. all of his family lives in Minneapolis.. so I am familiar with Trinity..

I live in Steve King country in Iowa.. a direct line straight down from Bachmann.. I think there is something in the water that has affected peoples abilities to think objectively in our little longitudinal grid





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