3% of murdered men were killed by an intimate

[boston bean]

1/3 of murdered women were killed by an intimate.

here is the study:

http://www.silentwitness.net/sub/violences.htm

Intimate Homicide Victims by Gender
Gender of Victim
Year Male Female Total Change
1976 1348 1596 2944
1977 1288 1430 2718 -226 -7.7%
1978 1193 1480 2673 -45 -1.7%
1979 1260 1506 2766 93 3.5%
1980 1217 1546 2763 -3 -0.1%
1981 1268 1567 2835 72 2.6%
1982 1135 1480 2615 -220 -7.8%
1983 1112 1461 2573 -42 -1.6%
1984 988 1439 2427 -146 -5.7%
1985 956 1546 2502 75 3.1%
1986 979 1584 2563 61 2.4%
1987 927 1486 2413 -150 -5.9%
1988 848 1578 2426 13 0.5%
1989 895 1411 2306 -120 -4.9%
1990 853 1493 2346 40 1.7%
1991 773 1503 2276 -70 -3.0%
1992 718 1448 2166 -110 -4.8%
1993 698 1571 2269 103 4.8%
1994 684 1403 2087 -182 -8.0%
1995 544 1315 1859 -228 -10.9%
1996 506 1310 1816 -43 -2.3%
1997 445 1209 1654 -162 -8.9%
1998 502 1310 1812 158 9.6%
1999 418 1204 1622 -190 -10.5%
2000 425 1238 1663 41 2.5%
2001 392 1194 1586 -77 -4.6%
2002 378 1193 1571 -15 -0.9%
2003 371 1163 1534 -37 -2.4%
2004 385 1159 1544 10 0.7%
Total Victims 23506
40823
64329

Yep, let's all live in a fantasy world where women beating the shit out of their intimates and killing them is some problem and sudden phenomenon in society where men are victims and turn women into the beasts that many men are in our society.(those bitches deserve the beating, cause they are just as bad as men)

On Average 3 women every single day are murdered by an intimate. There is a slaughter of women happening right under our noses and pretty much no one cares, until Tigers wife might have beat the shit out of him and now women are the deserving ugly bitches.

Give me a fucking break. Address the issue of 3 women a day being murdered by an intimate. Then tell me what a huge trend it is of men getting murdered and beaten and raped by their lover or intimate.

http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html

Until that happens I see all of this hoopla over men as victims as pure horseshit.

Not that I think hitting anyone is ever the right thing to do, it is NOT. Yet the discussion of men as victims and women as bitches distorts the reality of what is really happening out there. Yet the discussion is quite patriarchal and doesn't disappoint someone like me, I've come to expect it.

[cali]

1. thanks for posting the stats. it's vital to keep them in mind.

[boston bean]

5. 3 women a day die at the hands of domestic violence in the USA and...

yet the outrage at the taliban and other ME countries for women's rights is shouted from the rooftops.

What about 3 women a day here dying. would there be a difference if they were being stoned, rather than bludgeoned, and shot and stabbed??

[cali]

11. here's where we part company.

it's literally insane to think that there isn't a difference. for one thing, it's a crime here, and one that is not considered a minor or justifiable crime. And that's just to start with. Women in this society are far, far better off than women in Afghanistan or most ME countries. Secondly, how many children die from abuse each day? How many African Americans from violence? Yes, we have serious problems with violence in our society and that certainly includes violence against women, but the comparison you're making is nuttso.

[LARED]

2. Here's an idea

lets work at protecting all victims, no matter how they became vitcims.

[Le Taz Hot]

3. +1

[Orsino]

4. Yeah. When the problem is violence...

...insisting that some violence is more of a problem than the rest comes across as rather petty.

[boston bean]

6. no that is not the point of this thread.

give it another try, I'm sure you can figure it out.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. If violent act A kills 1,000,000 people, and violent act B kills 100,000 people

how is A not a bigger problem than B?

[Orsino]

14. When it's the same violent act?

Perhaps even stemming from the same impulses?

[Iggo]

16. A and B are two parts of the same problem.

[varelse]

18. Yes!

and no matter who they are.

[EndersDame]

7. How many men do not come forward about being victims of domestic violence?

How many are just injured?How many are just psychologically abused? This woman thinks any form of domestic violence is wrong!

[Zynx]

9. The correct way of presenting that would probably be the absolute numbers rather than

ratio of total murders. It still makes the case that women are far more often the target of domestic violence, though in the 1970s it is interesting that it was much closer. Men are much more likely to be murdered in general so the base you are comparing it to is very different. Just compare the numbers relative to population, not the number of murders that each gender suffers. Otherwise it is a little disingenuous.

It is more effective to say that "Women make up 80% of the victims of murders committed by intimates" than the way that was phrased originally.

[Kaleva]

10. The title is misleading as far more men are mudered then women.

[elocs]

12. A victim is a victim. How can the suffering or death of a victim be marginalized by gender?

Does anyone care or dare to post statistics comparing violence to gays compared to non-gays? How would that look?

If my son were killed by a his female intimate should I be comforted that far fewer males are victims of homicide by an intimate than females? Or in that case would my son be 100% a victim?

If a man is killed by a female that does not make her a bitch, however it does make her a murderer.

Why cannot we get to the point where we can simply say that all victimization is wrong? Saying that violence against women is wrong should not diminish our ability to say the same of violence against men. That someone is victim is not diminished simply because the statistical number of their victimization is smaller compared to another group.

[tabasco]

13. "Let's all live in a fantasy world where women beating the shit out of their intimates

and killing them is some problem..."

Are you implying it's not a problem?

Are you resentful because men can be victims, too?

I don't have sufficient psychological training to understand that type of thinking.

[NYC_SKP]

15. 1976: 1348 men killed, 1596 women killed. Numbers are falling. What's your Fucking Point.

Numbers remain higher for women than for men, and that is sad.

But the 3% vs 1/3 is very misleading.

The truth is in the article, thankfully.

The total combined murders, men plus women, has been falling.



:kick:

[varelse]

17. Can we just agree that domestic violence is harmful, criminal, and should be curtailed?

Men may not be victims as often as women are, but this does not mean domestic violence is the sole province of one gender. It does not mean that where men are victims of abuse, it is any less painful, harmful, and wrong than when women are victimized.

[aikoaiko]

19. Paying more attention to male victims of dom. violence does not take away from women's victimization

See post #15 for a non-manipulative display of the data about male and female victims of violence by an intimate partner.