Hannity: 2009 has been "one of the coldest years on record." Is it true?

[mcablue]

Mediamatters for America notes that this is a big falsehood. In fact, 2009 has been one of the warmest years on record in the world. The 5th warmest to be precise (tied with 2007, that is). So out of 130 years in record, 125 have been coldest, yet Hannity has the nerve of saying something opposite to what's true.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200911250020
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global&year=2009&month=10&submitted=Get+Report

[SidDithers]

1. Not in Toronto.

I had friends playing golf in shorts last weekend.

Late November? meh.

Sid

[ProfessorGAC]

2. Hannity's Cherry Picking

Here in the Chicago area, it's been a cold year. We had only 2 or 3 days of temps in the 90's this whole summer, which is an all time low. (At least since they started keeping records.)

And, we had a cold winter at the start of the year, but not the coldest any of us remember.

Overall, we've had a cool year, but that's only representative of a 7,000 square mile area. Not exactly a convincing sample for the entire planet.
GAC

[Octafish]

3. Liars are remembered.

Especially if they get the lie in before the truth has a chance.

Hannity and his masters love to lie. They know that it takes 100-times as much truth to drive out.

Remember how Corporate McPravda from the New York Times on down made out that Saddam had WMDs? It was a lie and no amount of truth can get that out of some people's heads.

[Kingofalldems]

4. I have noticed RWers lie about everything--and have no shame about it

[zbdent]

26. and are rarely held accountable ...

or their lies are quickly erased from the "liberal media's" videos ...

like George W. Bush's statement in early 2002, where he said "I'm not really that concerned about (Osama bin Laden)" ... disappeared right after John Kerry mentioned it in the 2004 debates ... despite the fact that it was one of the few press conferences where Bush answered questions himself (you'd think that would be easy to find among the few tapes they had of him answering questions at a press conference ...)

[Cosmocat]

30. They have LONG ...

just given up on even trying to deal in facts and reality.

One of these morons just pulls something out of his rear end, the others source their statements on that, they all fire on all cylincers repeating it, the MSM rolls over, then you have about 1/4 to 1/3 of our population that gets in line behind it.

[Viking12]

5. Oklahoma had it coldest October ever recorded. Other than that completely false

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/index.php?report=national

I suspect OK temps were caused by the evil chill emitted from the offices of their Senators. Obviously, an isolated source.

[Deja Q]

6. A much cooler summer here, though for late-autumn it might be a tad warmer.

All I conclusively know right now is, it was a very pleasant summer as I didn't need the AC.

[Ter]

43. Pleasant is 90's

:)

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. He'll select data that bolsters his theories. He never lets facts get in the way.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

8. Oh, I'm sure Hannity and his crack team of researchers...

...reviewed all of the relevant scientific literature before making that statement. :eyes:

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. No, it's his team of crack researchers. They pull information out of their butts.

[mcablue]

9. Can everyone please stop saying how climate has changed in your teeny tiny region?

This is global warming we're talking about here. Warming doesn't exclude the possibility that your town may be colder this year. Town temperatures don't matter. Even the temperatures in the whole US matter little, as we are a tiny fraction of the land/ocean area.

Even if you told us how things are in Texas, Texas is virtually nothing in relation to the globe.

The only thing we should know is that this is the 5th warmest year on record, globally.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. There is a difference between weather and climate. A big difference.

That's what the climate change denier asshats like Hannity either don't know or intentionally ignore. The fact that the weather has been colder than usual in one place means nothing at all. Climate relates to weather trends over time. And the trend is warmer.

[NYC_SKP]

39. Further, there's a difference between "climate" and "global climate".

Climate relates to weather trends and averages for a particular region.

Global change may include warming of some climates and cooling of others.

What matters, of course, is the big picture of all regional climate conditions across the globe.

FWIW, we haven't had the number of 100+ degree days we usually have, but it doesn't change the fact that the ice sheets are melting.

:patriot:

[marmar]

11. Hannity's relationship with the truth is very strained.

nt

[rucky]

12. Here's a couple maps...

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:B4pthmjjEaIJ:global-warming.accuweather.com/+global+average+temperature+2009&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[n2doc]

18. Exactly- it isn't called "Chicago Warming"

Or "New York Warming" or whatever. It is called Global for a reason

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Sort Of What I Said Earlier

We had a cold year in Chicago, but that has nothing to do with the rest of the planet.
GAC

[rucky]

36. I'm no climatologist, but I think there's a simple explanation.

The melting ice rose the water levels, spreading around more cool water and cool air. Trouble is, what happens to your drink over time, after you use up all the ice in the bucket?

[pipi_k]

13. I hate to say it, but

he's right as far as Massachusetts goes. At least in the Hilltowns.

We barely had a summer this year. It was cold and rainy. We had three (3!!!) hot days in August and that was it.

There were quite a few mornings, even during July, when the heat came on in the house.


Depends on where you were, what the summer was like.

[HughMoran]

17. All politics is local

facts be damned!

[MattBaggins]

21. GLOBAL WARMING not your "backyard warming"

[pipi_k]

35. My little corner of the world certainly DOES matter...

What I failed to mention in my previous post was that even though this past summer...and others going back a few years...was colder than normal, the winters here have been getting warmer.

Almost as if the temperatures are moving toward some middle ground so that the average yearly temperature for this area will, at some point, be higher than normal.


Anyone who lives in the area...even Republicans/Conservatives... can't help but notice that there's a big difference between day-to-day weather and long term climatology.

I may live in a shitty little town in a shitty little state, but my weather certainly is significant in that it's an indicator of the larger picture. My apologies for failing to mention the warmer winters beforehand so people would know that I do understand the difference between weather and climate.

[GreenStormCloud]

15. The sun has been unusually quiet.

First, I am not a climatologist but am merely a somewhat educated layman in matters of climate debate.

There does appear to be a link between sunspot activity and earth's weather. The strenth of that link is subjet to debate among scientists. Some claim it to be a strong link, others claim it barely exists, if it exists at all.

The sun is far into an extended period of relative inactivity. The solar wind is at an all-time low, however records of the solar wind only go back a few decades.

Prolonged quiet periods seem to be associated with cooler temperatures on earth.

The sun won't stay quiet. It will wake back up and things will return to normal - whatever normal is.

[ananda]

20. as for the sun and climate change

I don't think anyone is claiming that pollution and
CO2 emissions are the only factor in contributing
to climate change or various warming and cooling
trends, globally or locally... just that human
caused emissions are a major factor.

[MindPilot]

31. We are also possibly on the cusp of a major shift in the Earth's magnetic field

Which--if or when it happens--will make us long for good old days when only the climate changed.

[DBoon]

16. only if you are measuring the temperature of Hannity's heart (nt)

[sclerite]

22. Here is the latest summary

http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.com/

[dem629]

23. If Hannity said it, it's probably the exact opposite of the truth.

[Shagbark Hickory]

24. Why are you watching/listening to Hannity?

Either you're with us or you're not.

[dem629]

27. Oh, good grief.

Please tell me this is a joke.

I'm not the OP so I can't speak for them, but I watch about an hour of conservative media per week. (About the same as I watch liberal media outlets. Hate them both, actually.)

But what in the world causes people to think they have any say in what other people watch or listen to? When someone else starts paying my cable bill, they can have the remote control.

[Shagbark Hickory]

29. These rightwing douchegobblers are supported by viewers/listeners, be them lefty or righty.

Maybe you were not aware of how it works. The more viewers/listeners, the more stations carry them, the more their ad spots are worth, the more they get paid.
The best thing you can do if you don't believe them or like what they have to say is to stop supporting them and to treat hannity as you would treat me if I had a radio show.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

33. If you're not being sampled you're not supporting them. nt

[dem629]

40. I'm aware of how it works and you're wrong.

Unless you're participating in a ratings survey (Neilsen, etc.) no advertisers or stations have any idea you're watching them.

I watch very little of people like Hannity or Olbermann mainly because they're annoying to me and I know that their main purpose is stirring people up so you're not likely to get anything close to a fair presentation of information on those shows. But what little I've watched has no impact, nor does the viewership of anyone else who is not part of the ratings survey.

[Shagbark Hickory]

41. If you're listening to the ads then congratulations, you're in the audience.

Stop making excuses. I'm not even making insulting generalizations about the IQs of Hannity viewers/listeners and you're being argumentative. I can see why youd be embarrassed.

[Kahuna]

25. In hannity's own back yard, it has not been. Just more of his typical

fiction.

[geckosfeet]

28. If you don't count melting glaciers and polar ice caps.

[StarfarerBill]

32. It takes no nerve for a conservative to lie, but it does take courage for them to tell the truth;

which is why both courage and truth are vanishingly-rare commodities for the Right.

[man4allcats]

34. He wouldn't think so

if he had spent this past summer in Houston. It hasn't been that hot here for such an extended period since the record breaking heat of the summer of 1980.

[Canuckistanian]

37. Sure, it's true

But only if the "record" only goes back five years or so.

[LynnTheDem]

38. Oh gee, Hannity LIED. Again. I am SHOCKED SHOCKED I tell you.

HANNITY LIED.

It's what he does.

It's the rightwing way of life.

[Ter]

42. Hate to say it, but yes here in NYC

Coldest Summer I could recall. Piss cold June and July. Looking back on my older Facebook status', I keep saying "Not getting out of the 70's in July - unacceptable!"

[The Straight Story]

44. 130 years out of billions?

Seems to be a tad lacking on data imho.