Support for Sending More Troops to Afghanistan Rises Slightly.

[SIMPLYB1980]

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/25/support-for-sendming-more-troops-to-afghanistan-rises-slightly/

"As news reports surface that President Obama may send 25,000 to 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, a Gallup poll conducted Nov. 20-22 has found a modest uptick during the last two weeks in the number of Americans who support such a move.

But overall, the American public remains closely divided on the issue.

Forty-seven percent would back some level of increase, with 37 percent supporting the 40,000-troop increase Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, requested last September; another 10 percent back an increase by a lesser amount. That compared to 42 percent in a poll taken Nov. 5-8 who would back some level of increase, with 35 percent supporting the 40,000-troop level and 7 percent a lesser amount.

Taking the opposite view, 48 percent would either keep the number of troops the same or reduce it. Nine percent would keep the number the same, up from 7 percent two weeks ago; and 39 percent would reduce the number of troops, down from 44 percent. Five percent expressed no opinion."

[Junkdrawer]

1. Gallup's Motto: "Give us your desired result, we'll design the poll" (tm)

:eyes:

[SIMPLYB1980]

4. This should be good.

:popcorn: The anti Af-Pak people have already lost this argument, but it will be fun to watch them kick and scream for a few weeks.

[Fumesucker]

15. The ones kicking and screaming are those under our guns and bombs..

Not that warmongers give a fuck about the dead and maimed on either side.

[Forkboy]

2. There was wide support for the Iraq War, too.

[SIMPLYB1980]

6. And that has what to do with what?

Come on Forkboy you are smart enough to now that Obama will get what he wants on this.

[Forkboy]

9. Popularity does not equal correctness.

And I'm sure Obama will get what he wants, which has no bearing on it's correctness or not either.

[SIMPLYB1980]

10. I never said it did.

And the correctness of his decision will not be know. Unless you are a reliable fortune teller.

[Forkboy]

12. You didn't have to.

And the correctness of his decision will not be know. Unless you are a reliable fortune teller.

Right back atcha...and Obama.

[SIMPLYB1980]

13. I think the decision is the right one,

weather it is the correct one remains to be seen. Obama and all of you know that.

[tekisui]

3. Not even a majority.

The spin on this is going to be monumental.

[SIMPLYB1980]

5. You have lost this argument.

The President will get what he wants from the Congress. But have fun with your futile fight. Maybe the Anti all war people will get off of their asses and have a big march in Washington.

[tekisui]

7. Obama, our military, our economy, the people of Afghanistan

and the American people have lost, unfortunately. And, the biggest losers will likely be the Democratic Party. They fucked up.

[SIMPLYB1980]

8. LoL!

It's just eating you alive isn't it? Get use to it.

[Forkboy]

11. I don't get why you're so gleeful about war.

Even soldiers who are pro-war know how bad it is and the effect it has on both sides, whether it's killing innocents or the PTSD so many suffer from upon returning. There's nothing cool about it, and nothing to be happy about over it. But you're acting just like a Young Republican cheerleader who thinks war is sexy, and it's sad to see from someone claiming to be a Democrat. War, whether you support one or not, isn't something to be as gleeful over as you act.

[SIMPLYB1980]

14. No amount of explanation will suffice for any

of the anti all war folks. I'll just say that "I love death" because that is what you want to hear.

[Fumesucker]

16. At least you can be honest about it..

The dead and maimed appreciate it I'm sure.

As do the Chinese from whom we are going to be borrowing the money for this misadventure in the place empires go to die.

[Forkboy]

17. No, it's not what I want to hear.

I'd like to see you act like a mature adult about it instead of being lazy and taking the easy way out.

[SIMPLYB1980]

18. How about this.

Terrorists deserve to be hunted down and dealt with. The Afghanistan people deserve our help in re building that country, because that is the only way to really stop those people from turning to Jihad. This is the fight that we should have been fighting all along. War means death I accept that, but that doesn't mean I reveal in it. Anyone that thinks our problems will be solved by pulling out now I do not believe has a good grip on the reality of the region.

[Forkboy]

21. I don't agree, but it's a step up.

And the reality of that region is that no occupying force has ever had a victory of any kind there. There were plenty of Russians who were saying the exact same thing in the 80's that you are here, and it's also the same argument that helped keep Vietnam going on and on. There has yet to be a single clear interpretation of what victory even is. How can you achieve something that hasn't even been defined yet? 35K more troops isn't going to change much in the long run, and unless we plan on staying forever, a move that will create as many terrorists as we'd be eliminating, we're just pissing in the wind and bringing home that many more soldiers whose lives will be forever changed and scarred, and more families will be destroyed.

Terrorism is ultimately about ideas, and you can't bomb ideas out of existence. This approach actually helps foster the very thing we claim to be trying to combat. Each bomb creates another martyr for the cause, and makes recruitment that much easier. It's shortsighted and arrogant, which at least keeps our current Middle East policy consistent with the last 60 years.

Anyone that thinks our problems will be solved by pulling out now I do not believe has a good grip on the reality of the region.

Unless you possess insight to the region that we don't than your grasp on the reality of the region may be just as tenuous as what you think it is for anti-war people.

[DontTreadOnMe]

19. Are you sure?

I thought it was "I love profit from death".

[SIMPLYB1980]

20. Yeah that to.

Death can pay well.:sarcasm: