More Palin Lies: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence

[Beaverhausen]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/more-palin-lies-the-troop_b_371293.html

The Alaska State Trooper at the center of Sarah Palin's so-called "Troopergate Scandal"--which impeded her run for the vice-presidency and stained her record as Alaska governor--has broken his more than year-long silence since his embattled divorce with Palin's sister, Molly, became a cause celebre during last year's presidential campaign.

After reading passages from Palin's memoirs Going Rogue that deal with his marriage and subsequent divorce, a "fed up" Mike Wooten, 37, who still serves as an Alaska State Trooper in Anchorage, called the book "a pack of lies."

According to Wooten, Palin and her father, Chuck Heath Sr., have "interfered with my life--and my children's lives--for at least the last five years. And it is still going on. I'm done with it."

Characterizing his adversaries as "snakes," Wooten said he has kept quiet long enough. "From this point on I'm speaking my mind," he declared. "I'm speaking the truth. Let the chips fall where they may." He acknowledged that he is considering taking legal action against Palin on multiple fronts.


more at the link

[GMA]

1. But of course, he has no

ax to grind...

[me b zola]

2. So you think he is lying?

[Syntheto]

5. Maybe yes, maybe no...

...but his personal connection, especially an acrimonious one, nullifies any sort of claim to objectivity, which is the fundamental basis of 'Truth'. Look at it this way, if this guy was going on and on about how great Ms Palin is, people certainly wouldn't be buying his book, now would they? Another ticket puncher on the entertainment/news/propaganda express. Yawn.

[Jim Lane]

16. Palin is selling a book. Wooten isn't.

You write that "if this guy was going on and on about how great Ms Palin is, people certainly wouldn't be buying his book, now would they?"

In the linked article, there's no indication that he's written a book, is writing a book, is planning to write a book, or is even thinking about writing a book. Ditto for getting paid for any speeches (as Palin is paid).

The only reference to his economic self-interest is that he might take legal action. If he does, the jury would exclude anyone who was familiar with the news accounts of his comments, so going public now won't help him if he does sue.

There's no basis for calling him "(a)nother ticket puncher". I take his motives at face value -- he's fed up with being lied about.

[Trajan]

17. Ah ... Palin love in DU ....

What will they think of next ? ....

Isnt their an RU somewhere ?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

70. Man. I've seen Joe Arpaio love. Michael Savage love. And the lovers are still here.

It's irksome.

[me b zola]

18. FAIL

Palin has proven herself to lie about any and everything. Wooten has never been proven to lie about any public statement that he has made.

[iceman66]

28. Are you suggesting Palin is objective?

I'd take his word over hers, because she is a proven liar.

[HughMoran]

31. Palin is a filthy moron piece of garbage bent on destroying this country

...and turning us liberals into slaves.

What do you think about that?

[spanone]

33. i guess he's as objective as the palin

[Cha]

47. It nullifies nothing. sarah palin is an inveterate LIAR so

she's constantly suspect. She put herself in that position,.

[Cha]

48. Dupe

[MadMaddie]

51. But it's okay for her to grind her axe in his back?

This is Palin's problem she attacks and attacks and the media and her supporters let her get away with anything she says without scrutinizing what she is saying.

Whether this guy has an axe to grind or not he has every right to defend himself.

[tabasco]

3. Palin a a proven pathological liar.

Why shouldn't someone defend themselves from her lies?

Boohoohoo poor wittle Sarah!

Your post is funny.

[Name removed]

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[GMA]

4. It's not really a matter of "truth" or "lying".

As we see so often in relationships, a lot is in the interpretation. But, yeah, I think he's got good reason to stretch or distort things.

[Old Codger]

6. I would have

No problem at all I thinking he may be biased, that would pretty much be normal, it is the rare person who would not tend to color things to make their story lean in their favor but I have no reason whatsoever to think he might be actually lying. On the other hand we know her to lie as a matter of course... Having said that i would go with his side before hers.

[GMA]

9. Perfectly understandable. I'm not a Palin apologist, I just think

the attacks have gone beyond anything reasonable...

[Old Codger]

14. Which Attacks

Are you referring to? She attacks anyone and everyone who is not exactly on her side, whichever that side happens to be at the moment...She is a proven serial liar, she has continually misstated supposed facts that are patently false... She in fact deserves anything that may come her way in the form of lawsuits or legal prosecutions as deserved...

[GMA]

21. smile--

but how do you really feel about it?

My experience is that people are rarely as good--or as bad--as we may think. If she's worthy of prosecution, then I assume charges will be brought, and she'll have to defend herself.

[HughMoran]

32. Too bad she won't get the death penalty

She deserves nothing less for what she's trying to do to this country.

[Old Codger]

36. She is

Guilty, George Bush is guilty, Dick Cheney is guilty by admission, don't see any charges being filed...She is as bad as I think or worse.... These people rarely pay a real price for their crimes, we do...

[ohheckyeah]

7. Was she lying in this letter?

In a letter dated January 1, 2000, written on official City of Wasilla stationery, Palin praises Wooten profusely, though she fails to declare her then-pending familial relationship with him.

It is my pleasure to provide character reference examples for Mr. Mike Wooten. Since I have become acquainted with Mike I continue to be impressed with his integrity, worthwhile community spirit and trustworthiness...


On a personal note, I have witnessed Mike's gift of calm and kindness towards many young kids here in Wasilla. I have never seen him raise his voice, nor lose patience, nor become agitated, in the presence of any child. Instead, Mike consistently remains a fine role model for my own children and other young people in Wasilla.

I wish America had more people with the grace and sincerity that mirrors the character of Mike Wooten. We would have a much kinder calmer trustworthy nation as a result.

I believe the United States Air Force has been fortunate to have the services of Mike the past 10 years. His work ethic, his American patriotism, his obvious dedication to traditional values, and his strong faith in God and truth is witnessed in Mike's everyday living.

--Sarah Palin, Mayor

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/more-palin-lies-the-troop_b_371293.html

She can't have it both ways. She said he was a man with integrity and who was trustworthy. But after that letter he turned into the horrible person she claimed?

[GMA]

10. Don't know. But she wouldn't be the first person to

give someone a good recommendation and then regret it, or find out that person wasn't what she'd expected. I just think people should give it a rest.

[Cha]

49. Please, defending sarah palin is mccain's job.

[MadMaddie]

52. Well how about this

Maybe Sarah should give the country a rest! She and her supporters feel she is being unfairly attacked. (But it's okay for her to put a book out attacking everyone that she has come in contact with and make millions in profit from it.)

Sarah has to make up her mind, if she want's to be in the public eye then she gets the same treatment as everyone else that decides to do it. Why are people making excuses for her? She is a grown woman who has made her choices......

[Spazito]

54. LOL, give what a rest?

The quitter is out and about selling her pack of lies to any and all suckers. When she 'gives it a rest' I suspect so will others. Your defense of the quitter is quite hilarious!

:rofl:

[ohheckyeah]

63. Somehow I'm not terribly surprised by your

Palin support.

[immoderate]

11. LOL. If Sarah Palin tells you someone is trustworty....

...would you let them hold your wallet? :rofl:

I believed him until I read that.

--imm

[niyad]

44. whoever wrote that piece needs to learn about commas. (hard to believe that a

person as incoherent as sarahcuda could write something intelligible.

and what in the HELL does "kinder calmer more trustworthy nation" mean?????

[Name removed]

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[tblue]

19. It's some kind of weird fascination. Like watching really bad reality tv.

And the spectacle of Republicans drooling over her and taking her seriously for a potential world leader is right out of the Twilight Zone!

It sure seems like the people who actually know Sarah personally don't like her very much, doesn't it? How any liberal could lust after that evil woman is really too disturbing to think about. But the fact that she is both so mean and so stupid makes watching her get her just desserts while the whole world watches a heck of a fun time.

[cutlassmama]

20. +1000

[alfredo]

15. The worst thing a person can do is mess with another person's family.

If true, I hope he rakes her and her dad over the coals, and back again.

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[merh]

34. Perhaps you missed this in the article:

Wooten calls the version of events rendered in Going Rogue an "outright lie." Either it "didn't happen ," he says, "or she exaggerated it all beyond recognition. I look forward to telling my side of this story."

Wooten now joins an ever-growing array of figures from John McCain on down who have challenged the veracity of Palin's memoirs. The list also includes McCain senior advisers Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace, Palin's former legislative director John Bitney, her former political ally Andree McLeod, and former Alaska gubernatorial candidate Andrew Halcro. All Republicans. Wooten identifies himself as a "conservative" as well.

[varelse]

41. He's got plently of company ;-)

Wooten now joins an ever-growing array of figures from John McCain on down who have challenged the veracity of Palin's memoirs. The list also includes McCain senior advisers Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace, Palin's former legislative director John Bitney, her former political ally Andree McLeod, and former Alaska gubernatorial candidate Andrew Halcro.

[fascisthunter]

56. yeah, and Palin DIDN'T?!

are you kidding me?

[FormerDittoHead]

60. +1 Let's take the burden of proof off of Palin and her millions. WTF? n/t

[sattahipdeep]

12. Interesting choice in Coeur d'Alene, the capital of white supremacy.

Palin will pass on Seattle but plans a Dec.10 stop in Coeur d'Alene

White supremacist group returns to Idaho

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/apr/19/white-supremacist-group-returns-to-idaho/

Characterizing his adversaries as "snakes," Wooten said he has kept quiet long enough. "From this point on I'm speaking my mind,"

:wow:

[mitchum]

22. So Palin and her first lover Chuck Heath are still out to get Wooten?

I don't doubt that at all

[GMA]

23. I think what's proven in this discussion--

and probably in the 180000 others on Palin in the past week, is that there is genuine, irrational hatred for her, and a fair amount of projection. She's just another human being, folks. If you're afraid people will listen to her, at least argue differences in world view or philosophy. When people start saying "always" and "never" about someone NONE OF US KNOWS, it gets tedious. If she runs, she runs. If she doesn't, she doesn't, she doesn't. If you don't like what she says, don't listen. But don't speak as though you really know the woman.

[mitchum]

25. Sorry, but my hatred of her is completely rational...

as is my hatred of her shit eating defenders

[GMA]

26. Nu-uh! Smile.

LIGHTEN UP. I'm defending the fact that it's unproductive and a huge waste of energy to hate someone as much as some people seem to hate Sarah Palin.

[snagglepuss]

27. You can't be serious. Palin doesn't have one effing clue what

philosophy even means. She can't put together a coherent sentence. She is a utterly stupid, ignorant woman. The worse sort of ignorance is someone not knowing what they don't know and not caring. You appear to be running a close second.

[GMA]

29. Wow! Punch!

You got me!

Oh, wait--I'm still smiling, AND I like people! Maybe...even...you.

[niyad]

45. you are the one who needs to "give it a rest"-- we KNOW what she says, we listened to her during

that whole miserable campaign, with her "palling around with terrorists" schtick, her lying about the "bridge to nowhere" her whole schtick, as a matter of fact. you want to defend her, go ahead, but maybe you should do it on the other board. she has proven herself over and over again to be a craven, ignorant, lying, hypocritical, irrational idiot (AND she is a young earth creationist, which was all I ever needed to know to know how fucking stupid she is)

or, perhaps you could tell us just what she has said or done that makes you think so highly of her.

remdi95

[Cha]

50. "Irrational hatred"? You don't know what you're talking about.

[fascisthunter]

57. -- is your defense of Palin

that's what's been proven, and it's funny as hell.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

30. Is this the same Mike Wooten that tased his 11yo stepson to teach him a lesson? Classy guy. LOL.

[GMA]

38. yes indeed.

n/t

[tblue37]

53. The "n/t" belongs in your SUBJECT LINE. The whole point of

writing "n/t" is to let your reader know that there is no text to message--just the subject line. That saves them going through the time and trouble of opening a message only to find out that there is no message, just a subect l. By putting "n/t" in the message portion of your post, you are signaling with your subjct line (which doesn't have "n/t") that there is a message, so the reader should click on the post to read that message. Then the poor sucker clicks on the post, only to get an "n/t" telling him that there's no message after all.

[Trajan]

58. Left the Gungeon long enough ...

To fight for Sarah ...

Nice ...

I swear ... DU has nuthin on FR ...

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

62. Big tent.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

65. Here you are supporting a cop tasing an 11yo to punish him.

[spanone]

35. it's stunning to me to find a single palin defender on d.u......stunning.

[GMA]

37. Be stunned. Be very, very stunned.

I see more knee-jerk hatred here than anywhere in "real life". Thank heavens I run into enough genuine humanity and thoughtfulness to outweigh the--oh, dare I say it--mob mentality that is just beyond reason.

[TwilightGardener]

42. I'm proud of my knee jerk hatred of her. She's both stupid and evil.

[Caretha]

59. Then what are you doing here?

If that is the way you see DU. Obviously it's not being true to yourself. Maybe a little self-reflection or honesty is in order.

[gordianot]

64. I followed your posts down this thread.

You miss a few facts about real hatred, it comes from the right and not from this board. What you are seeing here are people who know who they when dealing with the radical right, there are paramilitary elements associated with the radical right and those who attempt to incite violence against those pesky traitorous liberals be they elected officials or civilians are real. The radical right is increasingly the entire GOP the moderates are no longer welcome. Palin appears to be an uncontrolled spokesperson in the new extreme radical GOP. I do believe at this point she is unscripted but that could change in the near future. The real hate come from the extreme right and as of now is rejected by most of the electorate. Palin is a literal throwback to the "Know Nothings" who ever is sponsoring her is playing a dangerous game. If not Palin it would be someone else such as Joe the Plumber or Huckabee. We are witnessing with Palin a resurgence of demagoguery rivaling Huey Long. In spite of lip service to Christianity they are any thing but Christian. I smell a wolf and her sheep costume is transparent.

[GMA]

66. Peeeewwwww!

My experience with conservative friends and family does not in any way reflect what you're saying, and that's somehow subterfuge here on du? Thank heavens I've met others here who are so much more thoughtful, and who interact with actual people--even repubs--and see them as people, not extremely silly stereotypes. So much hate here is purely projected.

[gordianot]

67. Glad you find some rational repubs left.

Most Republicans I know are in hiding or are now calling themselves Independent. What are left are the truly radicalized and I know more than a few. I find Palin and her defenders, apologists to be equally ignorant, uniformed (how is that for Projection) . Maybe Sarah should have stuck with the Alaskan Independence Party. Make sure you get your news from Fox.

For a list of the rules see this http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

[GMA]

68. I guess I'll ignore the rational people

and tow the line here on du. Ever worry that you may end up with such a highly self-selecting group here that you lose all touch with reality?

[gordianot]

69. I appreciate the concern.

I hove attended a Palin ralliy.met local teabaggers no need for opinions from DU.

[LondonReign2]

71. It is not knee jerk

You repeatedly, and incorrectly, mis-characterize it as such.

We've had 18 long miserable months to see what Mooselini is all about, we've had her endless lies and and endless distortions documented quite clearly. You attempt to dismiss the feelings toward Palin by mis-characterizing them as irrational and kneejerk. Poor attempt on your part.

No, all of the world has had more than enough time to evaluate this person, and the hatred of her is well earned.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

39. making people aware of exactly who they are backing isn't supporting palin. DUH.

[juno jones]

40. Hey, if he can prove libel,

I'll happily cheer the man on.

[Riley18]

43. He is much more believable because he waited so long to speak up for himself.

He seems like a guy who just got involved with the wrong family, and now his life is screwed. He isn't the first person to call her a lying snake. How many times can she be called a liar unfairly?

[Cha]

46. Can you imagine being in an ex family

situation with her relentless heckling?

palin's book, "a pack of lies"?! Do tell, Mike Wooten!

[Lagomorph]

55. Sounds like they don't like each other....

...but that's about all I'm getting from this, so far.

[Blue_In_AK]

61. Mike Wooten may have had some "issues"

as a trooper, but SP has pretty well destroyed his career. The last I heard he was forced to take a desk job because he was receiving death threats in his more public highway patrol position.

Back when the troopergate investigation was first initiated here, Wooten was painted as a "rogue," out-of-control cop, but knowing what we know about Sarah now, and how she lies, I wonder if the smearing of his reputation was warranted. We do know that the whole "tasering his stepson" incident was exaggerated, and we also know that the Heaths were warned by a judge to stay out of the custody dispute.

It's stunning how many former friends and supporters here in Alaska Sarah has alienated. My guess is her favorability ratings here would be well below 40 percent now.