GM to build Buick Regal sedan in Oshawa(With US Tax Dollars)

[Craftsman]

TORONTO - General Motors Co. confirmed Wednesday it will build the Buick Regal sedan at its Oshawa, Ont. assembly plant just east of Toronto, one of five vehicles the automaker committed to producing in Canada under the terms of a $9.5-billion US aid package that helped it avoid liquidation.

The new car, together with the Chevrolet Camaro sports coupe, Equinox SUV and GMC Terrain, fill out the new vehicle lineup GM agreed to build in Canada under deals inked with the federal and Ontario governments. A fifth vehicle, which sources say is a new luxury stretch sedan called the Cadillac XTS, will be named at a later date.

GM said it will start initial production of the Regal in the first quarter of 2011. The Regal is a mid-sized family car essentially identical to GM's Opel Insignia model sold in Europe. A jury of 59 senior automotive journalists named the Insignia 2009 car of the year in Europe, the first time in 22 years that a GM model was awarded the prize.

The decision by GM directors earlier this month to keep control of the Opel business instead of selling a majority stake as planned to Magna International Inc. and Russian partner Sberbank will help the automaker in the years ahead as it uses Opel as the engineering source for more car models, said industry analyst Joe Phillippi.


http://www.canada.com/build+Buick+Regal+sedan+Oshawa/2265737/story.html

[Craftsman]

1. How many Americans would love these decent paying jobs?

[peacebird]

2. Why is GM sending good jobs to Canada? And how is THIS part of the US funded restructuring?

I do not understand. We were supposedly trying to save the AMERICAN automobile companies... Does it not follow that the jobs we saved should be American jobs?

arghhh.

[SoCalDem]

3. Why? Canada pays medical for its citizens..GM saves a bundle

but we aren't "allowed'"to have government-run health care here:(

[Craftsman]

5. We are paying for GM so we should get the jobs.

[Craftsman]

4. I agree, this is jacked.

I have 1 unemployed and 1 underemployed BIL who would kill for this kind of job.

[TreasonousBastard]

6. This is the Canadian part of the bailout, and requires Canadian jobs.

[divideandconquer]

10. Duh, Doesn't anyone remember Canada helped in the bailout?

Doesn't anyone know that the rest of the Buicks sold in Canada are built in the US?

[Barack_America]

24. The sad thing is that remembering it isn't required...

...If one just reads the entire article. The article states the Canadian govts. stake pretty clearly.

"The federal and Ontario governments pledged $9.5 billion US to help the bankrupt carmaker reinvent itself and protect thousands of jobs. They hold 12 per cent of the common shares and about $1.7 billion US in debt and preferred stock."

[TreasonousBastard]

40. Never let the facts dim your outrage. n/t

[Barack_America]

22. Because the Canadian govt. kicked in money to the GM bailout.

And this is their reward.

The OP apparently didn't read the entire article.

[Canuckistanian]

28. Canada helped bail out the auto industry, too

It's only fair that we should see some pay out.

[Fumesucker]

7. Ah, but the *profits* will come to an American company..

And we have been told many times here on DU that where the profits go is what's really important when we point out that foreign automakers build cars in the USA. :eyes:

[KharmaTrain]

8. In This Case You Are Right...

With GM owing a ton to the government, this is a quick fix for them. The corporate goal isn't to save jobs or create jobs, it's to save their own bacon and to generate as much cash as they can as quickly as they can. It meant "cash for clunkers" and now trying to ramp up sales abroad where GM cars do better than they do here. China and India have been on car buying binges in recent years and GM cars have been some of the more popular. I'm not sure, but I would hope that some of the parts used will be made here and shipped there just as foreign car makers do with factories in this country. The alternative is to let GM go bust and we know this administration won't let that happen.

[Obamanaut]

9. And if they are union employees we've been told the important thing

is to support the unions.

[divideandconquer]

11. Unlike our protectionist Asian trade "partners" Canada is full of UAW built cars

Detroit's been playing on a unequal field for decades and then we blame them.

[DainBramaged]

20. True and I listed tham below..........

[divideandconquer]

13. No answer to the fact that Canada was part of OUR auto bailout?

The bigger version of this car is built in Kansas City and exported to Canada. They have quite a few UAW built cars up there.

At least these wondercars aren't being built with exploited "guest" workers from Vietnam. BTW, the Japanese claim Canada is a better place to build cars because of better educated workers. National healthcare must help as well.

[divideandconquer]

12. This car is a direct hit on Toyota, a 4 cylinder Lexus at a Camry price

This car is already a hit in China. GM kept the Buick brand because of it's strong presence in China.

Hasn't Buick been beating Toyota in quality recently? No wonder the GM haters are scared.

[RB TexLa]

14. The bankruptcy court should have forced them to sell Buick because of it's value.

[divideandconquer]

19. That's what Rush Limbaugh and many other Republicans wanted for GM

Just saying.

[Touchdown]

27. Buick is the daddy of GM. It was the car company that bought the others up.

Historical legacy is what keep Buick around.

And like the other poster said, Buicks are very popular in China. They sell more Buicks in China than they do in the US. It helps with the trade deficit.

[FarCenter]

15. It's not really a United States GM car -- its an Opel design

Still a Detroit FAIL

Opel was a major developer, together with GM's DAT unit in South Korea, of two key GM vehicle platforms - Global Delta and Global Gamma. A platform is generally a vehicle underbody, suspension and other components. The idea is to spin off models along the same platform and cut down on costs.

GM's upcoming Chevrolet Cruze car is based on the same basic vehicle underpinnings as the Opel Astra. And its next-generation Aveo subcompact shares a platform with the Opel Corsa.

[divideandconquer]

18. Once again the perfect is the enemy of the good for the haters of America's heritage auto industry

All cars are in some way, world cars now, but they are all manufactured under different moral conditions and some are produced locally by one of the greatest forces for liberal success in America, the UAW.

[DainBramaged]

26. OHAI, and what cars are Toyotas based on?

Chevys?

[Touchdown]

29. It's spelt Ojai.

[Touchdown]

32. GM owns Opel. Whatever they design is a GM product.

Whether it's designed in Detroit or Ruesselsheim, it's still a GM car. Cross platforming cars has been a GM business model for decades, where the same basic design is spread out over many models and divisions, like the Cutlass, which is a Grand Prix, which is a Monte Carlo, which is a Regal, etc. You really didn't think the Camaro and the Firebird were two distinct cars, did you?

Ford's Mercur XRTI, Mid 70s Mercury Capri, Mercur Scorpio, Certain models of the Ford Escort, Ford Fiesta, Mercury Contour, and a few others were all designs from Ford of Europe's division.

Chrysler's Crossfire is actually a Mercedes, built in Stuttgart.

[anonymous171]

16. When you don't have to pay for medical you can make a better profit. nt

[DainBramaged]

17. OHAI, I can see some of you aren't happy about this, BUT WON'T BUY A GM CAR ANYWAY

or that the CAW BUILDS these cars, or that if YOU HAD PUT EQUAL AND FAIR TARRIFFS ON JAPANESE CARS AND PARTS IMPORTED HERE there wouldn't be this mess, but no, GM is at fault. We export about six billion dollar a year to Japan in cars and parts, they EXPORT ABOUT $65 BILLION to us. We don't have a manufacturing plant in Japan, and how many do they have here sports fans? And don't get me started on the inequities with Korea.


Happy Thanksgiving.


:grr:


www.uaw.org


CAW CARS (current)

Chevrolet Camaro
Dodge Charger
Chevrolet Impala
Ford Crown Victoria
Chrysler 300
Mercury Grand Marquis
Dodge Challenger
Lincoln Town Car

CAW SUVs/CUVs (current)

Chevrolet Equinox
Lincoln MKT
Ford Edge
Lincoln MKX
Ford Flex
Pontiac Torrent
GMC Terrain

UAW/CAW Vans (current)

Chrysler Town & Country
VW Routan (Bought from Chrysler)
Dodge Grand Caravan



PS bitch at Ford and Chrysler ..................

[Barack_America]

21. OP is Wrong. The $9.5 Billion was paid to GM BY CANADA!!

In US funds.

The US govt. is not paying GM to build a car in Canada.

From the same article:

"The federal and Ontario governments pledged $9.5 billion US to help the bankrupt carmaker reinvent itself and protect thousands of jobs. They hold 12 per cent of the common shares and about $1.7 billion US in debt and preferred stock."

[DainBramaged]

23. Thanks, If I had corrected the OP, I'd be called a Union loving rust-eating

protectionist, and would have loved it...........:hi:

[Canuckistanian]

30. But you ARE a Union-loving, rust-eating protectionist

That's why we like you. :hi:

[DainBramaged]

35. Most of the parts in CAW made cars are North-American made

so we win anyway....................

:hi:

[Touchdown]

25. Ok That makes sense now. The post up thread didn't elaborate on that point.

Knowing the dollar value Canada contributed is understandable.

The key to selling cars is to get people into jobs so they can afford to buy them. I have a decent job, but am not in the market for another car for at least 4-5 years.

[Barack_America]

31. It's a pretty hot looking car.

I'll be in the market soon and I can't tell you how thrilled I am that Detroit has more to offer me than SUVs.

[Touchdown]

33. That is nice. I like small sports sedans.

Living in the city, you gotta buy what you can park.

[Barack_America]

34. That's my husband's take too.

He's a Golf owner right now, but is really interested in several Opel models.

[TrogL]

36. Don't forget the spin-offs

It's not just the assembly jobs. Somebody, somewhere, has to be manufacturing the parts.

I suspect the electronics is all Asian, but some of the bigger stuff must come from North America.

[DainBramaged]

37. Delphi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_Corporation

Delphi designs, engineers and manufactures a wide variety of components, integrated systems and modules on a worldwide basis, and is the largest and most diversified supplier of automotive parts. In January 2000 Delphi acquired the diesel systems business of Lucas TRW, making Delphi the world's second largest manufacturer of Diesel Fuel Injection equipment. Delphi Diesel owns the brands of CAV/Simms/RotoDiesel and Condiesel, the division also runs 10 subsidiary distribution companies in Brazil, China, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Turkey, UK and USA. The diesel aftermarket company is headquartered in Warwick UK.

Delphi also manufactures the MagneRide magneto rheological dampers, which use magnetorheological fluid to adjust the damping rate of the shock absorbers based on road conditions, to offer an effective compromise between ride and handling <18>. These can be found on the Audi R8 <19>, Audi TT, Chevrolet Corvette C5, Cadillac Seville STS, Ferrari 599 and select E Series HSV cars in Australia.

http://delphi.com/

Delphi Audio Systems for Automotive Manufacturers

[flvegan]

38. Dear God, please make GM

use the all-wheel drive format with the 6 speed manual, drop in the LS3 from the G8 and call it a Grand National. Please? Oh, and then make them drop the ZR1 LS9 engine in that same car, and call it a GNx.

Then give me the money to buy one of each.

Thanks God, You rock.

Yours,
flvegan

[DainBramaged]

39. LOL

Well done (sold my '87 Buick Turbo T-Type Regal BTW, an offer I couldn't refuse.......besides it had become impractical to own even after 22 years and only 106,000 miles)pictures soon.