Christian Nurse gets sued for removing IUD w/o permission

[sorrowspath]

Woman Says Anti-Abortion Nurse Removed IUD Without Permission, Then Lectured Her

ALBUQUERQUE (CN) - A clinic nurse first removed her intrauterine birth-control device without permission, the patient claims in a federal action, then told her that "having the IUD come out was a good thing," because "I personally do not like IUDs. I feel they are a type of abortion. I don't know how you feel about abortion, but I am against them."
The patient sued Presbyterian Medical Services Rio Rancho Family Health Center and nurse practitioner Sylvia Olona in Federal Court.
The plaintiff says she went to Rio Rancho to have the strings on her IUD shortened.
The complaint states: "As soon as Defendant Olona began speaking to (the plaintiff), she questioned her about her choice of contraception.
"As Defendant Olona began the procedure, (the plaintiff) felt Olona pull on the strings of the IUD. (The plaintiff) felt a distinct pulling on the strings followed by a sharp pain in her uterus similar to a very strong menstrual cramp.
"As that happened, Defendant Olona stated, 'Uh oh, I accidentally pulled out your IUD. I gently tugged and out it came.' She then explained, 'I cut the string than went back and gently pulled and out it came. It must have not been in properly.'
"Olona then stated, 'having the IUD come out was a good thing.' She asked (the plaintiff) if she wanted to hear her 'take' on the situation. Without receiving a response, Defendant Olona stated, 'I personally do not like IUDs. I feel they are a type of abortion. I don't know how you feel about abortion, but I am against them. What the IUD does is take the fertilized egg and pushes it out of the uterus.'
"Defendant Olona stated, 'Everyone in the office always laughs and tells me I pull these out on purpose because I am against them, but it's not true, they accidentally come out when I tug.'
"At this point, Defendant Olona advised that (the plaintiff) needed to take a pregnancy test. (The plaintiff) did, and the test was negative.
"Defendant Olona told (the plaintiff) that is was better that she did not have the IUD because she could now use a "non-abortion" form of contraception. Defendant Olona suggested the deprovera (depo) shot or the pill, and made clear that she would not insert a new IUD."
The plaintiff demands damages for battery, constitutional violations and negligence. She is represented by Ryan Villa with the Law Office of Robert

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/01/14/Woman_Says_Anti-abortion_Nurse_Removed_IUD_Without_Permission_Then_Lectured_Her.htm

[vadawg]

1. she said she said, unless the nurse has a history of removing the IUDs in the past

no real point on commenting until the case is concluded as we dont know all the facts...

[prole_for_peace]

4. She does have a history of removing IUDs

"Defendant Olona stated, 'Everyone in the office always laughs and tells me I pull these out on purpose because I am against them, but it's not true, they accidentally come out when I tug.'

[Maru Kitteh]

27. She does - and hopefully they send her ass to jail for battery

[vadawg]

29. i didnt see where it says that she does, is there another report with the results

this just seems to be the complaint where the plaintiff is saying that she stated these things to her.. i took it as a she said she said thing. I did a search and it dosent look at though there is anything out there but the complaint, would be interested to see if its been settled yet...

[panzerfaust]

45. It is quoted in the OP

"Defendant Olona stated, 'Everyone in the office always laughs and tells me I pull these out on purpose because I am against them, but it's not true, they accidentally come out when I tug.'

[Occulus]

83. He's ignored that twice now. n/t

[anneboleyn]

93. Yes, she has a clear history, to the point that her coworkers are aware of it. She deserves to lose

this lawsuit. And her actions afterwards are clearly inappropriate for a medical professional. She should not have been mentioning her opinion that IUDs cause abortions.

[tabasco]

50. Just like fake Marines. n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

51. The defendent admitted that it has happened before...

"Defendant Olona stated, 'Everyone in the office always laughs and tells me I pull these out on purpose because I am against them, but it's not true, they accidentally come out when I tug.'

[WolverineDG]

97. Admissible as a party-opponent admission

Oh just try to keep that statement out, Defendant, especially if your work record backs it up. :evilgrin:

dg

[fascisthunter]

53. I'm not surprised to see you

jump in to defend this person without knowing the facts.

[Name removed]

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[aquart]

2. Wait. The clinic knew and did not fire her?

[northernlights]

13. that's why the clinic is also being sued nt

[HowHasItComeToThis]

33. AH YES RELIGION IS TIED IN TO THIS

RELIGIOUS MEANS RE-TIED... LOOK IT UP.

RE LIGERE LATIN TO TIE

ASK ABOUT LIGATURE

[sorrowspath]

3. Church owned hospitals are scary

It's very similar to what happened to my cousin and his pregnant wife years ago. The pregnancy was risky so the nun in the hospital (Catholic) wants him to sign an agreement that if it comes down to the life of the mother or the child, the Doctor would save the baby "because it's better to deliver a new soul into the world than save an existing one". My cousin refuse, took his wife to another Hospital where the delivery is successful and both mother and child safe.

[Shallah Kali]

16. Catholic biships now want to ban catholic hospitals from obeying Living Wills

when it comes to removing feeding tubes -

Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For"300,000 Terri Schiavos" - ban any Catholic hospital, nursing home or hospice program from removing feeding tubes or ending palliative procedures of any kind, even when the individual has an advance directive to guide their end-of-life care
http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/24/catholic-bishops-enact-plan-for-300000-terri-schiavos

[marshall]

46. Hopefully nobody will be forced to enter one of these places

Just go to the county hospital. Leave the religious run places to those who want them.

[wolfgangmo]

57. And they shouod get no public monies

including tax exemptions.

If the argument the churches are using to deny things like communion to politicians who don't vote church doctrine etc. is to say that the church is voluntary and if you don't want to follow the rules you can go somewhere else is in direct violation of government guideline of serving ALL people in the country and as such means that they can get by fine without federal, state, or local government money including tax exemptions for non-profits.

If they want to play hardball in their own court with their own ball then they can bloody well pay for them themselves and stop expecting us to do it for them. They have become nothing but corporate communists thanks to former Nazi, Pope Rat.

[snake in the grass]

35. While I was in med school in Germany...

...I learned about the unwritten rule in Catholic hospitals, that in case of an emergency, the newborn's life should have priority over the mother's. Since then I have always advised my friends to avoid delivery in a Catholic hospital whenever possible. I would hate to lose my wife for the sake of dogma.

[BlueMTexpat]

38. In my senior year in a co-ed Catholic high school in the US, the girls and boys

were segregated for our "Religion" classes. This "unwritten rule" stems from a ethical precept, known as the Principle (Rule or Doctrine) of Double Effect, that was drummed over and over again into our trusting little heads.
It seemed wrong to me then, because it was further argued that the life of the newborn should have precedence over the mother's even if there were already living children who would be orphaned as a result of the mother's dying. It still seems wrong to me now. Of course, I also haven't been a practicing Catholic for 45+ years, in large part due to a theology that, in my view, does not recognize the basic rights of more than half the world's population.

Wiki has a fairly decent write-up about the Principle of Double Effect, for anyone who is interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_double_effect

[snake in the grass]

43. Thanks for the link.

I just figured it was because women aren't worth much in the eyes of the one true church.

[pundaint]

63. Which religion isn't the "one true?"

Ask a Baptist if a non baptist can be saved.

It's all part of their big lie, they invented fear-based marketing.

The success of religions is the one argument against the existence of God that I have no way to refute.

[fascisthunter]

60. whoa... that's really messed up

and if true the Hospitals should be shut down.

[liberalhistorian]

94. If that's true, then that nun wasn't even following

official Church policy in such matters, which states that both lives are of equal importance and one should not be considered higher than the other and attempts should be made to save both lives.

[me b zola]

5. WTH?

The nurse should lose her license and go to jail.

[Bolo Boffin]

6. This is from January, but it's still an outrageous story.

I wish Jesus had said: Blessed are they that mind their own business.

[dorktv]

23. He did kind of.

[Bolo Boffin]

91. Yeah, thinking about it... n/t

[verdalaven]

37. It doesn't matter what Jesus said

this type of "Christian" does not care.

http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector#p/u/11/5mLOUWl-L-s

[SkyDaddy7]

41. Speaking of not caring what Jesus taught...

American Christians of all stripes are the first to support war, torture, all about greed & stock piling wealth or at least like to give the appearance of wealth, Bronze Age treatment of women's health issues and they hold an utter disdain for the poor & disabled...If Jesus was here today we would see Christians screaming on FOX News about how Jesus is a Socialist, Communist, illegal immigrant who would make America less safe!

If there is anything that could be labeled the "anti-christ" it would be Christians themselves!

The Christians who do try to follow in the footsteps Jesus are silent on the hypocrisy of other Christians...Or probably these Christians are such a small minority of overall Christians that their voice is simply not heard. But even these Christians hold Bronze Age Ideas close to the heart like Jesus did. God's Law!

I am not a woman so I have no idea why any woman would want anything to do with these religions that place them below men.

[laughingliberal]

47. I always wonder at the bishops who want to refuse communion...

to legislators who support choice but are silent on those who support capital punishment and war.

[SkyDaddy7]

86. I know!

They seem more focused on controlling what women do rather than being truly focused on the entire idea of "Pro-Life".

[OnionPatch]

48. There are a few people

who actually try to follow the teachings of Christ, but ironically, we are not considered Christians by the mainstream denominations. And we are not silent about the hypocrisy of other Christians. I speak out against hypocrisy every time I see it. But I also don't believe in wearing my religion on my sleeve, so maybe people don't tie my religion to my denouncement of the hypocrisy of right-wing Christians. Maybe I should start preceding my comments on DU with "As an unorthodox, non-mainstream, non-religious person who tries to follow the teachings of Christ, I believe......."

[SkyDaddy7]

89. I respect your beliefs but if you don't mind...

...Can I ask you a question? What attracts you to this religion? I mean I know Agnostic/Atheist who follow the good humanitarian teachings of Jesus. Of course they are not acting this way because someone named Jesus was said to have taught this. Rather they act as they do because it feels good and it is the right thing to do. We should care for one another as it benefits us all to do so! So, why do you and others who obviously do not adhere to the Bible as a whole continue to connect yourself to a religion that is based on following the Bible? Is it just because that is what you grew up with? Don't want to upset family? Is it the traditions you like more so than the super natural idea of it?

I understand completely if you do not wish to discuss this on an open forum or at all...But I will be perfectly honest I am very curious what drives folks to adhere to religions they have huge issues with. Is that fair?

BTW: I am not an angry Atheist as many like to call those of us who are truly confused about why so many truly good people feel they have to connect themselves to a religion who's Holy Book does promote some really awful ideas.

Thanks for at least hearing what I have to say.

[OnionPatch]

96. I believe that most of the great "prophets" taught the same things Jesus did

But of all the "teachers" out there, Jesus is the one I know the most about and learned the most from, so I consider myself a Christian. But I don't believe a lot of the same things conventional Christians believe (certainly not right-wing "Christians") and I also don't believe everything in the Bible literally, some of it not at all. The Bible was twisted through translations by men with their own agendas. The screwy, scary stuff in the Bible was not about Jesus and Jesus didn't write the Bible, after all. If you read enough of the others' writings on the teachings of Jesus, though, you can get the gist of what he was all about and I feel a connection to that. But like I said, the so-called Christians of today would not accept me as one of their own. For example, I don't believe that people of other religions or even atheists go to "hell". Hell is here on Earth. I have been agnostic and atheist at times and I never needed to belong to a religion to feel strongly about my moral convictions. Currently, I believe there is something more going on and Jesus was just one of the wise people who tried to tell us about it. Maybe I shouldn't call myself a Christian, I've asked myself that a lot. To be honest, I don't really care what people call me, Christian or not, I know there are a lot of people out here like me who would consider themselves Christians if they had to categorize their beliefs.

[SkyDaddy7]

98. Thank-you!

[BrklynLiberal]

55. Well said.

[Unca Jim]

61. Dang...

"American Christians are X, and believe Y."

How would you like it if I told you what Atheists believe?

You'd rightly tell me that I had no idea what I was talking about, not being one.

Oh, I have my *opinions* about what *I* think Atheists believe...but I surely can't speak for such a diverse group.

[TheMadMonk]

68. The ones that get in my face and tell me how good they are and...

...how "not good" I am ARE X and DO believe Y.

Don't like being tarred with the same brush? Get out there and put the boot to the aresholes giving you a bad name, rather than simply pontificating on how not like that YOU are.


The simple truth is that the leaders of the different denominations tend not to slag off at each other, not even when given amunition as damning as the sexual abuse scandals of the Catholic Church. Partly because the Salvos, CofE and probably any other church that ran orphanages/schools were up to exactly the same thing themselves. But also because in general the truth is a two edges sword. When centuries of schism can come down to an argument as ridiculous as to whether to genuflect on the left or the right, any "truth" that destroys one, has a damned good chance of taking the attacker with it as well.

In these times, best to ignore any beef with the heretical "lefters" the next street over, and instead bask with them in shared persecution by we deityless deniers of divinity.

[Unca Jim]

77. We can do better than that.

It sounds like there have been people in your life who identify as christian who have treated you terribly. I've had similar people treat me badly too. I've also had people in my life who identify as atheist treat me terribly. Of course it's sad that anyone has to have those types of experiences, but how do those experiences give *anyone* the understanding to tell someone else what they believe and what they should do? I don't see the point of telling my decent, community-minded atheist friends to "put the boot" to anyone "giving (them) a bad name" because of my bad experiences. What good would that do?

We are only responsible for our own behavior. Blaming everyone who identifies as christian for all the excesses and evils of all who identify as christian is ridiculous and does no good. That has nothing to do with victimhood, it's just logically ridiculous.


I am no more responsible for the Inquisition than you are for Eugenics.


I *am*, however, responsible for how *I* treat *you*. The converse is also true. I have no desire to fight with you or tell you that your beliefs are wrong, and I have no intention of letting anyone tell me what to believe or how I must behave because of it.

[SkyDaddy7]

90. That's fair!

I accept that charge...However, when you are on the outside and see religion trying to rip our education system apart, shread our Constitution, trying to undermine science, blocking medical research that could help millions of people, trying to control what women can do with their own bodies, creating laws that openly promote hate toward huge groups of people in our society, ON AND ON!

When you see Atheist doing something other than posting a few billboards speaking out against religion or filing a few lawsuits to try and force our Government to follow our Constitution then let me know! PLEASE!!

There is a huge difference!

[liberalhistorian]

95. I remember reading the original story back then. Have

there been any updates yet? If this is, indeed, true, then I hope the nurse is fired, loses her license and pays through the nose. She had NO business doing that whatsoever. NONE.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

7. I wouldn't take my DOG to a catholic hospital.

I;ve heard too many stories where they save the baby and let the mother die -- so daddy can raise the baby all by himself.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. Well, it depends. For reproductive-related services, it's probably a good idea to avoid them.

I got my appendix removed in a Catholic hospital. No ideology there. It was the closest one, it accepted my HC plan, and I was feeling really bad.

[saltpoint]

8. Weren't this nurse's call to make.

Shame on her.

[Nikki Stone1]

9. I think this is a hate crime

..

[KittyWampus]

15. Interesting take on this. Have to think about it but I'm inclined to fully agree.

[Shallah Kali]

17. it might legally qualify as it is religiously motivated violation of another's body

..

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

24. "A religiously motivated violation of another's body" Very well put.

Casts this in the right light too, this womans' autonomy was attacked by this Nurse.

Kudos.

[wolfgangmo]

58. Loss of license, job, a huge fine, and jail time.

At the very least.

[saltpoint]

18. I personally don't know all the legal lyrics, but the tune sure sounds like a

hate crime.

That point might be worth its own thread, Nikki.

[me b zola]

20. That is how I would feel

Why does this person still have a nursing license and walking free?

[CLANG]

25. I'm interested in this too. How is it a hate crime?

[SidDithers]

10. Discussion threads from January...

for further information and opinion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=4864148
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=4905674

I hope the victim wins a substantial settlement, and the nurse loses her license.

Sid

[Maru Kitteh]

28. I hope the nurse goes to jail for battery

[kestrel91316]

73. A civil lawsuit cannot send the defendent to jail. Only criminal charges

can do that.

I wish Americans understood the difference etween civil law and criminal law.

That said, I consider what this nurse did to be CRIMINAL ASSAULT motivated by religious hatred.

[pink-o]

11. Anyone who has a problem performing their professional duties

needs to find another job!

I'm soooo sick of these "moral, upstanding" so-called Christians who preach to women about their birth control either in the pharmacy or the hospital. If their delicate sensibilites are so freakin' offending, then don't work in that field. If they love children so much, go work with foster kids or help educate young people so that there are no more unwanted pregnancies.

And these idiot corporations who allow this behavior to continue are just as bad! Listen, I'm a vegetarian, I work in a field that brings me into contact with a lot of hunters traveling to shoot moose and deer. What if I refused to help them "because killing animals when we don't need to offends me"? Do you think I'd have my fucking job tomorrow??


And if it were a problem for me, if I didn't believe that everyone has a right to their own choices as long as it's not illegal or dangerous, then I would find another place to work!

These idiots need to get over themselves and their moral sanctimony!!!

[krabigirl]

14. Holy sh*t. this is truly scary...I think she deserves jail time.

[musette_sf]

19. I've got a Catholic hospital/IUD story:

I had a Copper 7 at one time. It was supposed to be one of the less intrusive IUDs for women who had never had children. The first few months were really okay.

One evening I was eating dinner with friends at home, when I began having abdominal pain. I initially thought it was indigestion, but the pain increased until my friends called an ambulance for me. The closest hospital was St. Vincent's.

I had x-rays and then was left to lay there in pain for hours and hours, and the doctors on staff said they could find nothing obvious to treat/operate/medicate me for, so I was given nothing as the pain continued to increase. I began to think I would die, in miserable pain, untreated till the end.

The gyno who came on in the late shift was a South Asian woman, who evidently didn't have much, if any, affiliation to the RCC. The first thing she asked me after looking at my chart was "Do you have an IUD?". I answered in the affirmative.

She reached in, pulled the string, popped it out, and the pain ended.

Can you BELIEVE I laid there for hours, in miserable pain? Can you BELIEVE the gyno I first was examined by never THOUGHT to ask about an IUD? Or, even worse, thought it might be a possible cause but decided I should suffer for my sin?

[defendandprotect]

30. At least they didn't end up killing you . . . a while back they were letting women die in childbirth

in order to "save the baby" . . . !!!

Husbands would be handed a child and told that your wife is dead -- but "we saved the baby" . . .!!

[musette_sf]

31. Another reason why I left the RCC n/t

[katkat]

39. musette

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

I have never in my life seen less Christian behavior than wingnuts who call themselves Christians display,

[NBachers]

71. Well Said

[musette_sf]

85. thanks

I really do think I was intentionally left to suffer. If the late shift gyno hadn't helped me, I think they would have waited till my uterus was perforated.

[Odin2005]

21. Fucking Christo-Fascists.

That nurse should be fired and thrown in jail.

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. This seems to have been settled with the nurse, and continued as just a negligence case

Patient Settles Claim Over Nurse's Anti-Abortion Views

A New Mexico woman has settled her lawsuit against a physician's assistant at a health clinic who allegedly expressed anti-abortion views while removing her IUD without her permission, On Point has learned.

Ashley Van Patten's original complaint included an unusual claim for violation of the due process right to choice of contraception arising from a visit to the Rio Rancho Family Health Center in Rio Rancho, N.M., for an adjustment of her IUD. She also alleged civil battery, describing the actions of physician's assistant Sylvia Olona as “malicious.”
...
But what appeared to be a blatant intrusion of religious belief into medical treatment was scrubbed from an amended complaint filed last week, leaving Van Patten to allege only a run-of-the-mill malpractice claim for negligent removal of the IUD. Olona's name is also omitted and the only defendant is the federal government, which funds the Rio Rancho clinic.

Van Patten attorney Ryan J. Villa of Albuquerque explains that he amended the complaint "pursuant to a settlement agreement reached by the parties. The United States wanted Ms. Van Patten to file this complaint as part of the settlement agreement." Settlement documents have yet to be filed with the court.

http://www.onpointnews.com/NEWS/Patient-Drops-Claim-over-Nurse-s-Anti-Abortion-Views.html

[drm604]

26. She shouldn't have just demanded damages for battery.

There should have been criminal battery charges. Maybe then people would stop doing this kind of crap.

[Frau Bauer]

32. Why is that person even a nurse?

I don't know, it just seems stupid that that person was a nurse in the first place. If you're not going to provide care for a patient based on something like that (nurses should fully know that people are going to ask for contraceptives), they should think of a different occupation.

[JoeyT]

34. Cases like this irritate me to no end.

They are useful to hold up to people that cry persecution whenever anyone argues with them, though.
This woman had a history of removing IUDs because they were against her religion.
Had she claimed she was "accidently" removing them in the name of Satan, Shiva, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Mazda, Set, Osiris, or any other deity you'd care to name, the rest of her career would've been measured in nanoseconds. We'd also see a lot less people willing to defend her.

Charge her with a hate crime? It wouldn't surprise me to see the criminal charges fail to stick and a loss on a civil case. I'll be amazed if the woman isn't still a nurse. Hell I'd be amazed if she isn't still working at the same place.

As an added bonus, this clinic is a recipient of federal grant money.

[omega minimo]

36. Can she be sued for being INSANE?

[a la izquierda]

56. Just think, if that were possible...

most Democrats would be millionaires and our tax dollars would take care of broke, "insane" Republicans on welfare.
I shudder to think.

[katkat]

40. wingnuts heard from, probably before this happened

HON. HEATHER WILSON
OF NEW MEXICO
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Monday, March 31, 2008

Mrs. WILSON of New Mexico. Madam Speaker, in honor of Women's History Month, I asked New Mexicans to send me nominations of women in New Mexico who have given special service to our community, but may have never received recognition for their good deeds.

On Tuesday, March 25, 2008, I had the honor and privilege of recognizing sixty-one worthy nominations describing sacrifices and contributions these women have made for our community. The people who nominated the women describe the dedication they have witnessed: volunteer hours for veteran's services, service on non-profit boards, homeless programs, mentors for young women, health care providers going above the call of duty, child advocates, volunteers at churches and synagogues, successful business women, wives, mothers and friends.

Allow me to share information about this year's nominees:

Sylvia M. Olona--Sylvia is a dedicated Physician's Assistant who travels throughout New Mexico to provide health care to residents when no physician is available. She provides a much needed service in rural New Mexico.

[The Wizard]

42. Heather Wilson

The former Congresswoman with the voice of a clucking chicken who sobbed on the house floor because her son caught a nanosecond glimpse of Janet Jackson's nipple. That Heather Wilson? Her involvement in the U.S. Attorney scandal was never fully examined like most of the crimes committed by the Bush cartel. She really is a major douche bag.

[Joanne98]

44. She's a Taliban terrorist!

[southernyankeebelle]

49. This is just the beginning friends. These kind of people want to outlaw even the pill because

they consider that abortion to. All women should be worried, even the women who are against abortion but are pro pills. Women should worry that some men want to control the woman's uterus.

[Echo In Light]

54. A few books/articles I've read on RWers over the past several yrs outlined that fact

... that while abortion is one of their chief obsessions, it's actually contraceptives that the Right really wants to clamp down on.

[pundaint]

64. Be fair, obviously a lot of women want to control other's bodies too

[BrklynLiberal]

52. The nurse should go to jail. The clinic should have to make a huge payout to the plaintiff.

And this should be made illegal!!!!!

Wonder how these birther vigilantes would feel if a nurse artificially inseminated them without their permission!!

The unmitigated gall leaves me icy cold with horror.

[EOTE]

59. Typical DU. Nobody here would be upset if the nurse removed an IED from her uterus. NT

[Catshrink]

87. Must be the turkey

because I had to read your subject line a few times to figure it out. Dang I'm slow today.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

62. ''Nurse'' Sylvia Olona License EXPIRED on 12/31/76

https://www.state.nm.us/bon/lookup.html



Name: OLONA, SYLVIA MARIE
Title: Licensed Practical Nurse
License # L06337
Issue Date: 04/30/1975
Expiration Date: 12/31/1976
MSR Status:


Use Link and put in her name.

Direct link will not work.

[ecstatic]

66. Good catch. Either their system is horribly outdated (which I doubt) or

that clinic has a lot of explaining to do!

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

74. Lots of splainin to do

This verification provides current data extracted by the New Mexico Board of Nursing (NMBON) from its own database. The data in this web site is provided by and controlled by the NMBON and therefore constitutes a primary source verification of licensure status in New Mexico. The data is updated daily.

[dgibby]

69. That may not mean anything.

Many LPN's go on to become RN's, then let the LPN license expire. If she was functioning as a Nurse Practioner, then she's an RN. If she's functioning as a PA, she's probably not an RN. She's been described in various reports as both, so it's hard to tell what her actual title is.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

72. it's the ONLY license/nonlicense listed in New Mexico so

your point is moot.

[kestrel91316]

75. Well, she obviously went back to school to get her PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT

license, which is a much higher level on the nursing scale than Licensed Preactical Nurse.

If I had been an RVT before becoming a veterinarian, I would have let my RVT license lapse, and there wouldn't be anything strange or nefarious about THAT either.

An LPN is a bedpan assistant. A PA is like a Nurse Practitioner, which is between RN and physician in training and responsibilities.

[ecstatic]

76. Do PA's require a license? She doesn't have any licensing at all

in the state of New Mexico, except for the expired LPN license.

[kestrel91316]

79. A physician assistant is a high-level uber-RN. They most certainly are licensed.

Just like a nurse practitioner.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

78. Humpty Dumpty

and I'm the stupidest one of all, or so it would seem.


New Mexico Medical Board
2055 S. Pacheco, Building 400
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505-476-7220 fax [phone]
(toll free within New Mexico 800-945-5845)


General Information
Licensee Sylvia Olona - License Type Physician Assi
Business address: Penitentiary of New Mexico
Business address: 4311 S Hwy 14
Business: Santa Fe NM 87504
Business phone [phone]

License Status Active
License Date 05/17/1978
License Expires 03/01/2010





Medical School UNIV OF UT
Graduation Date 01/25/1978

* The Board does not verify current specialties. For more information please see the American Board of Medical Specialties website at: www.abms.org to determine if the physician has earned a specialty certification from this private agency.

[kestrel91316]

81. I figured as much. And for the curious, here's a bit about PA's:

(the only reason I know anything about them is because my nephewe cosidered it as a career, but he's probably gonna go to medical school)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician_assistant

A physician assistant (PA) is a healthcare professional licensed to practice medicine with supervision of a licensed physician.<1> A physician assistant is concerned with preventing, maintaining, and treating human illness and injury by providing a broad range of health care services that are traditionally performed by a physician. Physician assistants conduct physical exams, diagnose and treat illnesses, order and interpret tests, counsel on preventive health care, assist in surgery, and write prescriptions.<2>

Physician assistants exercise autonomy in medical decision making as determined by their supervising physician. Physician assistants are educated in the medical model designed to complement physician training. Physician assistants are not to be confused with medical assistants, who perform administrative and simple clinical tasks with limited college-level education in hospitals and clinics under the direct supervision of physicians, registered nurses, nurse practitioners, or physician assistants.

SNIP

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[Deja Q]

65. I hope she doesn't engage in oral sex to completion.

The esophagus doesn't go down THAT far...

I don't like certain bumper stickers. That doesn't give me the right to remove them from other peoples' cars.

"Respect me and I'll respect you. Even if I don't agree with you." What the hell is wrong with that concept in this country?

[McCamy Taylor]

67. If the nurse has done the same thing to others, she should lose her license.

I hope she has been reported to her state nursing board.

[stubtoe]

70. I was scolded once by a nurse about having an IUD.

If she had tried to pull it out, I would have kicked her ass from here to Jupiter.

[winyanstaz]

80. I hope the nurse gets her pants sued off....

and loses her job as well. I don't normally hope negative things happen for anyone but this lady is a danger to others and has NO business being a nurse.

[NNN0LHI]

84. Holy shit! Wasn't the nurse worried about the damn thing blowing up?

Oh I thought that it said IED in the subject line.

How embarrassing.

Don

[Catshrink]

88. This nurse is no Christian -- a fundamentalist yes, but Christian, no.

She's taliban, Christo-fascist, whatever. But this woman certainly isn't following the spirit of teachings of Christ. Throw her ass in jail.

[BoneDaddy]

92. Loss of license

as it should be.