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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 02:45 AM
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Imagine Charter School in Florida to give pay cuts to teachers.
It is ironic that they are noticing that they were paying some teachers more than the traditional public Broward County Schools. One would think that would be okay for a charter school which is getting so much private and taxpayer money to pay their teachers more....but they don't agree.

This really points out that public school teachers have contracts for the year or for longer if they have tenure. In a public school their salary would not change at the whim of management.

Pay cuts coming at Imagine Charter School at Weston

A committee of teachers and faculty scrutinized the school’s finances with one goal in mind: maintain the quality of education in the classroom. “In other words, no layoffs,” said Rod Sasse, the regional director of Imagine Schools. The committee looked at how much the 43 teachers made and saw huge discrepancies when compared to the Broward School District’s salary scale, he said. Some teachers made up to $8,000 less; others made up to $12,000 more.


I surely would love to know what basis they used for their salary decisions at Imagine. Pretty rough to be hired at one salary then have it lowered considerably.

Over the past three years, the school’s budget has gone from about $6.9 million to about $5.6 million, Sasse said, yet staff got raises up to this year. “Something’s got to change.”

The solution is to level the playing field, meaning 19 classroom teachers will get pay cuts ranging from 1 percent to 22 percent, while 24 others will receive a bump in pay. Sasse said the entire staff is taking an additional 5 percent pay cut, including the principal “and yours truly.”

Other changes coming at the school: adding a voluntary pre-kindergarten program to bring in extra money; sharing a speech specialist among several Imagine schools (there are four in South Florida); negotiating with the landlord to freeze the rent; and getting one janitorial crew to clean several schools instead of using individual crews.


Again, I wonder who sets the pay standards? The Imagine CMO from Virginia, or the local charter school. That is a huge pay discrepancy. Much more than public schools.

Florida is eagerly adding more charter schools, but it appears a battle might be brewing in Alabama. It appears "teachers union boss Paul Hubbert said he will fight Gov. Bob Riley's proposal to bring them to Alabama."

Interesting.

Calling charter schools a "fad" that takes money away from public schools, teachers union boss Paul Hubbert said he will fight Gov. Bob Riley's proposal to bring them to Alabama.

Riley told the Press-Register on Tuesday that he would like the Alabama Legislature to pass a law enabling the creation of charter schools. It's the only way, he said, that Alabama will be able to compete against other states for $4.35 billion in education funds that President Barack Obama is giving out as part of his Race to the Top campaign.

But Hubbert, who holds influence as executive secretary of the Alabama Education Association, said Thursday that he'll fight any charter proposal.

"I intend to oppose it strongly," Hubbert said. "I think it's wrong and I think it will hurt far more than help.

"It would absolutely take money from the public schools and put it in a charter school, which basically operates like a private school," Hubbert said.


Hubbert will lose the battle because the big money that Arne is offering to states that have more charters....is making people greedy. They will in the end give up their objections.

Money talks.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 02:47 AM
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1. What a quick unrec....at least read it first.
:eyes:
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 02:51 AM
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2. 'Giving' pay cuts to teachers.......what a "GIFT" Oye! n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 03:30 PM
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4. Making the statement that teachers are not worth it.
It really is an awful thing to do.

But since these schools are not regulated, they can get away with it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 12:42 PM
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3. And back in NY..Bloomberg selling out more teachers to get Arne's money
Bloomberg to Klein: Use student data in tenure decisions this year

Bloomberg has full control of schools there as mayor. Arne's 4.3 billion requires merit pay tied to student testing.

Speaking at the Center for American Progress, Bloomberg asked Schools Chancellor Joel Klein to follow a new interpretation of the state law that bans the use of student performance in tenure decisions. The law only applies to teachers hired after July 1, 2008, Bloomberg said. Teachers up for tenure this year, who were hired in 2007, are not subject to the rule, according to this interpretation, and so will be evaluated using their students’ test score progress as a factor.

The announcement came as the mayor called on Albany to enact a number of legislative changes, including mandating school districts to evaluate teachers with student performance data and eliminating the charter cap, that would make New York State more competitive in its Race to the Top application.

Much more to come; the full press release accompanying the mayor’s announcement, and the text of his comments this morning, are below the jump.

MAYOR BLOOMBERG CHALLENGES ALBANY TO LIFT SEVEN ROADBLOCKS PREVENTING NEW YORK FROM WINNING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION’S ‘RACE TO THE TOP’ EDUCATION REFORM COMPETITION


Money talks.


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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 06:30 PM
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5. As a teacher in a charter school,
I can say that $ talks and bs walks, straight up. The proper incentive is to pay for the best, hold them accountable for their results, and adjust accordingly. The very fact that we pay teachers according to "women's wages" because teaching is generally a "woman's job" just shows how f'd up our priorities are. To see the results of not focusing on education, watch "Idiocracy" for fun and look around you for reality. Ugh.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 06:41 PM
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6. Hire good teachers, pay them well, let them teach.
It used to be that way.
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 07:05 PM
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7. let's make every school a charter
then we can REALLY gut education for the masses - and kill the teachers' unions too!! Obama following in Reagan's footsteps, ala' the aircraft controllers. Ahh, the change, the hope, it's all sooooo sweet!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:35 AM
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11. and when they "go public".. there could be happy shareholders
aplenty!
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 11:04 PM
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8. Education will be just a memory for anyone who can't afford tuition.
The government will fund charters just until they bust the unions and public schools. Then after a few years they will have budget problems and kids without tuition money will be out of luck. There really is no law that we educate for free. I think charter schools are just a way to ease out of public education. I became a teacher because it was a job that I thought could not be outsourced. Looks like I was wrong. Wish I saw this coming before I got stuck with a huge student loan bill for a master's in reading education.
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:53 AM
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9. Take your eduction overseas.
The brain drain is started. Take yours where the work is.

Also, consider this. If you are teaching in China (et.al) it is going to be pretty hard for the student loan crooks to find you for a payment.
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zopilotetexas Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 03:52 AM
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10. Imagine Schools Cuts Staff
Check out Imagine's 2009 Annual Report p 31.
http://www.imagineschools.com/uploadedFiles/Learn_More/Imagine%20Schools%202009%20Annual%20Report.pdf
Same number of schools as last year (73), 4000 more students, 100 fewer staff (3500).
Wonder how they used the federal stimulus funds.
When will Obama admin rule on their long-pending IRS application?
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