we really need another massive anti-war rally

[G_j]

the message is the same for all leaders who wage war.
It's won't change policy for the time being, but
the symbolism of a large demo would be significant.
Peace is peace is peace. The song remains the same.

[tekisui]

1. knr!~

[dysfunctional press]

2. there's a name for the size/type of rally we really need...

revolution.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

3. Hey, go for it.

Maybe you can pick up some teabaggers along the way, and you can all revolutionize together.

[dysfunctional press]

19. disparate groups can use the same route to arrive at different destinations.

if you don't think that fundamental and systemic change is going to be required, that's your prerogative.

if you do, however, and you think that it can be achieved without a massive revolt...

that's also your prerogative.

[razorman]

6. The Neocons are using that word a lot lately, too.

I see things getting much worse in this country before they get better.

[dysfunctional press]

21. change can be a bitch.

especially when it involves wresting the 'power' from the clutches of it's holders.

the neocons may recognize the need- but the man behind the curtain can usually hornswaggle them about who's actually in control...

[G_j]

7. sure, but, that's just about as likely as the rapture..

a revolution in consciousness would be what is needed, but it doesn't seem to be going in that direction.

[kenny blankenship]

15. Only if we don't show up

keep your calendar open

[dysfunctional press]

17. "a revolution in consciousness"...

would pretty much by definition require a certain level of consciousness among the electorate as a whole to begin with. we've barely got 50% that fall into that category on a good day.

the bigger the mess gets, the bigger the clean-up job that's going to be needed.

[salguine]

18. No shit, brother. This is the only change I believe in now:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

4. What exactly is the use of symbolism if it doesn't change anything? n/t

[Luminous Animal]

8. I for one want to be on the record of NOT being a "good German".

Publicly, in front of my community and peers.

[kenny blankenship]

13. nothing wrong with showing a decent respect for the opinions of mankind

Sometimes decency just requires it - an outward token that we have been at fault and we know it. Sometimes it's the least we can do.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

23. You don't need a massive rally to do that.

Go get a sign and a soapbox (or other appropriate box) and stand at a busy intersection.

[G_j]

10. because all Presidents, and Congress ppl. who wage agressive war should be adressed equally.

is there a reason why Obama should be excluded?

[Luminous Animal]

5. It won't happen. There's too many Dems who now think war is

hunky dory.

[kenny blankenship]

14. Have a look

Meet the Enemy

[Stinky The Clown]

9. I will be there

[2tr4nqued]

12. You can protest by yourself.

Put a peace sign on a sign, and stand by the side of the road.

Here in Chicago, we will have protests next week on the day after Obama's announcement, and then again on Saturday. It will be a good size protest. But until then, I am going to stand on a busy corner every day during rush hour with a peace sign. I dno't have to wait on someone to organize a protest to protest.

[kenny blankenship]

11. Inquire Within

March on DC against the war

[G_j]

24. this time around...

I stood up for ANSWER in the past, because they got permits and got things done.
However, I really am looking for a fresh new start, something more singularly focused, and less dogmatic/ more grass roots.

[leftstreet]

16. It won't happen until the Repubs have the majority again

sadly

[deutsey]

20. I'm ready for some action, just not with ANSWER

I was part of many, many, many anti-war protests during Bush's 8 years, a lot of them ANSWER-sponsored.

I respect that they were the only ones organizing protests for a while right after 9/11, but good lord I don't want to endure another one of their rigidly ideological rantfests ever again.

[G_j]

22. no, I defended them also,

and I hope they have success, however, we need something like the Vietnam moratorium march, and specifically focused on the US wars, in particular, escalation in Afghanistan. I hope something else besides ANSWER can emerge.