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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:49 PM
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Rep. Gutierrez: “Impossible” To Vote For Health Care If Immigrants Can’t Buy Insurance
The debate over health care just added a new wrinkle. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), a key ally of Barack Obama’s from Illinois, said today that he would find it “extremely difficult if not impossible” to vote for a health care bill that included the restrictive and discriminatory measure on undocumented immigrants that appears in the Senate’s version and has the White House’s support.

Gutierrez, a leader in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, objects to a provision in the Senate bill that would bar all undocumented workers from participating in the insurance exchanges, even with their own money. The White House has repeatedly expressed support for this measure, as recently as yesterday, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius reiterated the President’s position.

Here’s Gutierrez’s statement, passed on by his office:
“It is no secret that I have been critical of proposals that would exclude our nation’s hardworking immigrants from the health care exchange, and I would find it extremely difficult if not impossible to vote for any measure that denies undocumented workers health care,” said Rep. Gutierrez. “If we bar the immigrant community from buying private insurance with their own money, we relegate them to emergency room care at the highest cost to taxpayers and deny them the important opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to a healthier America. Immigrants are prepared to pay into the system. I hope my colleagues in the Senate will defer to the language in the House bill on this issue and bear in mind that excluding immigrants from the private marketplace runs counter to the very goals of health care: containing costs, increasing the use of preventative care and streamlining the health delivery system.”


The White House has said that undocumented workers would still be able to buy private non-exchange insurance, but that market is unlikely to exist, especially if the exchanges work as intended, providing a cheaper product and more choice for those who do not get insurance coverage from an employer.

More here: http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/24/rep-guiterrez-impossible-to-vote-for-health-care-if-immigrants-cant-buy-insurance/

I'm sure some DUers are disappointed this bill doesn't go far enough and ban illegal immigrants from the emergency room as well. After all, technically, since they are undocumented residents, they aren't Americans, and not really human beings! And non-humans don't need life saving treatment. Not to mention our water system. Unless we go the extra step and ban them from obtaining water too, they might find a way to infiltrate our supplies and impurify our precious bodily fluids. :sarcasm:

This bill just keeps getting better and better. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter how terrible it is, as long as Rahm and company get to stamp out a "W" in 2010.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:55 PM
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1. Agreed.....Why would you exclude undocumented residents from PAYING for insurance?
You would think the trough-feeding insurance company swine who pull Congress' puppet strings would want to shakedown as many people as they can.....OR is it more important for the Amurka for Amurkans Repugs and Blue Dogs to appear to be cracking down on them Illegulz for their foaming-at-the-mouth mad dog racist constituents?


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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:00 PM
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2. "immigrants" is a broad term. Many immigrants can buy insurance
Only the undocumented ones can't.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:09 PM
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4. Is it true that they can't buy insurance ?
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 08:09 PM by kenny blankenship
or just that they can't buy insurance through a facility offered by the government whose laws they are violation of by being here?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:04 PM
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3. just give him a few hundred million $$, works for senators nt
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:10 PM
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5. Who is worse off? Those forced to buy it or those banned?
:)
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 02:32 AM
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6. GREAT question! eom
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 02:39 AM
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7. Fuck him and fuck this bill goddammit the party is so fucking screwed
We have no direction. Every congressmen has some kind of goddamn pet issue and refuses to work for the common (leftist) good. We have asshats like this guy who, for some reason, thinks that illegal union busting cheap labor deserves free healthcare paid for by the American taxpayer. Then we have idiots like Feinstein who want to dismantle social security and ban guns because she is scared of phallic objects and hates old people. God fucking dammit.
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