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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:40 PM
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President Obama vows to "finish the job" in Afghanistan-likely to send 35k more GI's as he promised
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 06:50 PM by Politics_Guy25
http://start.shaw.ca/start/enCA/News/WorldNewsArticle.h...

WASHINGTON - Signalling an imminent decision on new troop levels for the Afghanistan war, President Barack Obama said Tuesday he intends to "finish the job" on his watch and destroy terrorist networks in the region.

The president said he would announce his decision on how many additional soldiers to deploy to Afghanistan after Thanksgiving, or Thursday, a national holiday.

The White House is aiming for an announcement by Obama next week, either Tuesday or possibly Wednesday, in a national address. Congressional hearings will follow immediately.

Military officials and others expect Obama to settle on a middle-ground option that would deploy an eventual 32,000 to 35,000 additional U.S. forces to the 8-year-old conflict. That rough figure has stood as the most likely option since before Obama's last large war council meeting early this month, when he told military planners to rearrange the timing and composition of some of the deployments.

This is what he promised in his campaign platform located here:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreign_policy/side_b...

Barack Obama will refocus our efforts on Afghanistan. He has a comprehensive strategy to succeed in Afghanistan with at least two more U.S. combat brigades, more resources and training for the Afghan Army, and a comprehensive development strategy.

His address to the nation next week which likely will escalate American involvement in Afghanistan is PRECISELY what he promised to do during the 2008 campaign. Only someone who didn't listen to him would think otherwise. Indeed, one of his basic arguments on foreign policy was that Shrub diverted attention to a needless war on Iraq while he, our president and commander in chief if he were lucky enough to assume those roles, would withdraw from Iraq and focus on winning the war in Afghanistan that should have been the primary focus in the first place because after all, as he hammered Shrub and Mccain over, it was AQ that attacked America on September 11, 2001. Not Saddam Hussein! He promised to make things right in Afghanistan.

Indeed, I remember his August 1, 2007 major foreign policy campaign address well. It is when I solidified my support for him.

In this speech, he promised to win the Afghanistan war:

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_t...

An extended snippet:

Ending the war will help isolate al Qaeda and give Iraqis the incentive and opportunity to take them out. It will also allow us to direct badly needed resources to Afghanistan. Our troops have fought valiantly there, but Iraq has deprived them of the support they need—and deserve. As a result, parts of Afghanistan are falling into the hands of the Taliban, and a mix of terrorism, drugs, and corruption threatens to overwhelm the country.

As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations and support NATO's efforts against the Taliban. As we step up our commitment, our European friends must do the same, and without the burdensome restrictions that have hampered NATO's efforts. We must also put more of an Afghan face on security by improving the training and equipping of the Afghan Army and Police, and including Afghan soldiers in U.S. and NATO operations.

We must not, however, repeat the mistakes of Iraq. The solution in Afghanistan is not just military -- it is political and economic. As President, I would increase our non-military aid by $1 billion. These resources should fund projects at the local level to impact ordinary Afghans, including the development of alternative livelihoods for poppy farmers. And we must seek better performance from the Afghan government, and support that performance through tough anti-corruption safeguards on aid, and increased international support to develop the rule of law across the country.

Above all, I will send a clear message: we will not repeat the mistake of the past, when we turned our back on Afghanistan following Soviet withdrawal. As 9/11 showed us, the security of Afghanistan and America is shared. And today, that security is most threatened by the al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuary in the tribal regions of northwest Pakistan.

Al Qaeda terrorists train, travel, and maintain global communications in this safe-haven. The Taliban pursues a hit and run strategy, striking in Afghanistan, then skulking across the border to safety.

This is the wild frontier of our globalized world. There are wind-swept deserts and cave-dotted mountains. There are tribes that see borders as nothing more than lines on a map, and governments as forces that come and go. There are blood ties deeper than alliances of convenience, and pockets of extremism that follow religion to violence. It's a tough place.

But that is no excuse. There must be no safe-haven for terrorists who threaten America. We cannot fail to act because action is hard.

As President, I would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional, and I would make our conditions clear: Pakistan must make substantial progress in closing down the training camps, evicting foreign fighters, and preventing the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area for attacks in Afghanistan.

I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.

To conclude, President Obama is about to fulfil one of the central tenets of his foreign policy strategy as outlined in the 2007-2008 campaign. I whole-heartedly support him, the commander-in-chief and President of the United States, and the troops that he commands, as they embark on this mission which will hep to make the terrorists even weaker and set the stage for Afghanistan to join the community of democracies.

Further support here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

President Obama introduced his new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan yesterday with a threat assessment familiar from the Bush administration. "The terrorists who planned and supported the 9/11 attacks," he said, are continuing to devise plots designed to "kill as many of our people as they possibly can."

Elements of the Obama plan to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat" al-Qaeda in Pakistan and vanquish its Taliban allies in Afghanistan also struck notes from the past. More U.S. troops, civilian officials and money will be needed, he said. Allies will be asked for additional help, and local forces will be trained to eventually take over the fight. Benchmarks will be set to measure progress.

I say well done and I support you Mr. President! As I support you on so many other things while others waiver. Next week's announcement is simply the culmination of what he has promised to do which is to re-focus the U.S. on the REAL War, not Bush/Cheney's fantasy wars.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:41 PM
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:42 PM
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2. no surprise
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 06:43 PM by Skittles
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:47 PM
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3. Finish the job of decimating the military?
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 06:47 PM by rateyes
Declare victory in Iraq and bring our troops home.

And, if you're going to escalate in Afghanistan, then escalate by the amount of troops needed to get the job done you're trying to do. McChrystal says that will take around 70-75 thousand.

Either get in all the way, or get out all the way. These "half-measures" won't cut it.


I cringe at this "cut off the dog's tail an inch at a time" strategy that we are hearing on everything from war to health care out of this administration. Cutting off a dog's tail an inch at a time keeps teh sucker mad for years.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:48 PM
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4. The Democratic version of "Smoke 'em out!" and "Bring it on!".
All that's missing is the cowboy boots.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:49 PM
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5. Won't work, you'd need 350k to end it quickly and effectively.
Sending 35k will accomplish nothing but get us mired there indefinitely.

Of course, maybe that's the real plan.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:51 PM
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6. What do you imagine 350k soldiers doing once they get there?
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:07 PM
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10. It's kind of a rhetorical device
The point is, you'd need a lot more than 35k to get in and out quickly and effectively. 350k would probably be excessive, but 35k isn't enough unless the idea is get bogged down indefinitely.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:52 PM
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7. Only certain promises seem to matter, others not so much...
bring all sides to the table for health care discussions, public option open to everyone and negotiate drug prices for ALL Medicare enrollees (this will be very important as the baby boomers move to Medicare - from 46 million enrollees to 79 million over the next two decades)

The drug companies must be so happy with the current deal.

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rantormusing Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:53 PM
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8. Sad
My heart goes out to all those military service men over there. This is barely a step up from murder. Somewhere out there a brash young person is photo shopping Bush's photo off all those world's number one terrorist and inserting Obama's picture, or at least they should.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:03 PM
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9. Go team go! Win win win!
Push 'em back, push 'em back! W-a-a-a-y back!

Two bits, four bits, six bits a dollar! Everyone who's pissed off, stand up and holler!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:50 PM
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11. Hes a moron, than.
and he is lost to me now. Its over, Obama.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:56 PM
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12.  Mr President
wake up,you are being ill advised get out of Afghanistan,look at the history of countries that invaded that country,you can't win,give it up.Tell your advisers the war profits boys and gal to shove off or come 2012 you'll be out in the cold.I for one a supporter of your in the last election will not vote for you again.
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