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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:20 AM
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Environmentally friendly light bulbs ‘can give you skin cancer’
What do we think about this????

Energy-saving light bulbs can be bad for your skin, doctors are warning.

The fluorescent devices produce a more intense light and can aggravate a range of existing problems, especially in those with light-sensitive conditions.
Eco-bulbs are due to become compulsory in British homes within four years. But campaigners want the Government to allow an opt-out so people with health problems can still use old-style incandescent bulbs.

Read more...
Energy-saving bulbs 'can cause migraines' warn experts
There have been growing concerns that low-energy light can trigger migraines, as well as dizziness, loss of focus and discomfort among those with epilepsy.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506082/Environmentally-friendly-light-bulbs-skin-cancer.html
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:22 AM
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1. CFLs don't trigger my migraines
and are usually aimed at a wall to diffuse the light unless I'm using them for task lighting, so my skin cancer risk is minimal.

I can't say the same for all those years of working nights in a hospital with huge numbers of fluorescent fixtures blazing overhead.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:23 AM
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2. I dunno. A nice scientific study of some sort would be nice, with actual
fat free data to support these claims but these days that's a bit much to ask, I guess.

I wonder if this was funded by an incandescent bulb manufacturer....

:shrug:
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:12 AM
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11. I can testify that they will trigger migraines
I hate just about all florescent lights. They flicker not stop and make my eyes feel like someone was trying to pop them out from the inside.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:35 PM
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27. accidentally posted twice so deleted one. n/t
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 01:38 PM by katkat
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:33 AM
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3. I hear that they also cause swine flu...even if you've been vaccinated.
BAN THEM NOW!
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:17 AM
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14. And they made my granddaughter pregnant,
but I can't get anybody to listen to me about this. BAN THEM NOW.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:26 AM
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15. They made my son-in-law pregnant...those things are dangerous!!!!
The family is agog
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:34 AM
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18. Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:50 AM
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19. Walks like a woman but she talks like a man, that's Lola
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 11:56 AM by Sal Minella
Many years ago, a dear grad student tried futilely to teach me to dance the Brooklyn Hustle to that song. Ah memories.

It's a wonder he didn't become pregnant, now that I ponder 'pon it.

heh.

For the youngest among us -- turn up the speakers, plz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixqbc7X2NQY
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:31 AM
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17. I don't know, but I suspect she lied to you, grams...
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 11:38 AM by MineralMan
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:28 PM
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26. Maybe that's not actually what she said.
My hearing seems to be in Fade Mode lately.

Maybe she was just asking me to pass the mashed turnips or something . . .
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:37 AM
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4. When I read the word "intense", suddenly the light on my computer
screen became blinding!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:40 AM
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5. They are also responsible for Infertility, Erectile Dysfunction, and Flatulence...
...among those who believe everything they read coming from Great Britain.

:P

:donut:
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:41 AM
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6. My clones seem to like them.
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:53 AM
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7. Here's a serious question not unrelated...
I've got a few of the CFLs in some light fixtures, but one has apparently gone out.

Now that it doesn't work, what do I do with it? I'm probably going to just throw it away, because I really don't think that the amount of mercury in one bulb will effect a tick on a flea's back. However, once these start going out in mass quantities in 6-7 years, what's to be done with them?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:14 AM
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13. Here, our local Home Depot has a CFL collection bin...
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:32 PM
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21. call your local recycling people and ask
They probably take them at hazardous recycling day. I have a box in my garage and hazardous stuff accumulates in there until I have enough to make a trip there.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:27 PM
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25. Please be careful about keeping hazardous materials in the same box...
some of those things (swimming pool chemicals, household cleaners, batteries) if accidently mixed together, can produce ... umm ... interesting results.

Sid



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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:29 PM
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31. if there is an ACE hardware near you, ask them--mine recycles the cfl's, thank goodness.
I HATED the idea of going to home depot to dispose of them.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:57 AM
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8. And they simply refuse to wash my dishes!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:00 AM
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9. The effect can be blocked with layers of tin foil.
lots and lots of tin foil.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:11 AM
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10. There's really no reason to use CFLs in the winter
Since you need the heat anyway.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:12 AM
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12. Why do people use the Daily Mail, as if it were a reputable source?...
They're a right-wing british tabloid. Like a print version of World Nut Daily.

Sid
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:30 AM
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16. CFL's are a transition technology. LED's are the next step.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:24 PM
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20. I heard the Sun can, too.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:35 PM
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22. migraines
They did trigger migraines for me.

I had them in every fixture in the house and started getting 2-3 migraines a week, as opposed to normally one every 2 months or so.

Swapped back in incandescents and back to normal. I only have the incandescents where I spend a lot of time, otherwise I left the CFLs in. And I'm accumulating a bunch of incandescents every time I go to the store now and hording them. Dunno what I will do when they're no longer made,.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:04 PM
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30. LEDs are powered with direct current, so they don't flicker
It is probably the flicker of flourescent lamps that triggers migraines and other effects.

As far as I know, there should be no difference between CFLs and other flourescent lamps.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:43 PM
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23. Skin cancer often shows up DECADES after exposure.
In "normal" people.

So, think a bit about how long these light bulbs have been on the market, and how a researcher might or might not be able to separate out previous sun exposure from light bulb use.

Who they seem to be cautioning are people suffering from disorders such as Xeroderma Pigmentosum, who suffer from DNA damage repair defects and are very sensitive to light (as in the can't go outside on sunny days degree of sensitivity). Could these light bulbs be dangerous for those people? Sure. But does that mean anything to the population at large? Absolutely not.


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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:52 PM
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24. Wow...a sensationalist headline, peppered with multiple question marks, backed by a british tabloid
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 12:53 PM by tjwash
:thumbsup:

Priceless

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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:41 PM
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28. It must be wonderful
to be a regular, healthy person, who never has problems with meds or CFLs or vaccines or paint fumes or migraines or whatever, and so thinks anyone who does wears a tin hat.

Reminds me of the teeth threads where some insensitive moron was claiming everyone with genetic problems or whatever just had to brush their teeth regularly and their problems would be solved.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:56 PM
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29. The study, funded by the Association of Power Producers...(nt)
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