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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:06 AM Original message |
Mr. President--I voted for you to get us out of these God Damn Wars! |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. Welcome to the underside of the bus. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Hey, we're all bozos under this bus.. |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
134. and Everything We Know is Wrong... |
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Krashkopf (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #134 |
178. How can you be in two places at once . . . |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. Don't crush that dwarf. |
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HarveyDarkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Hand me the pliers |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Eat it raw |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Shoes For Industry... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. He's no fun, he fell right over. |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #199 |
217. So this is where all the Firesign Theater people are! |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:32 AM Response to Reply #199 |
235. The lonesome trains of Ioway, The White Trash Mountains of Virginny |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #195 |
219. Fuck you! |
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Left Coast2020 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
232. We're too late. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
248. Porgy Tirebiter . . . |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
105. +1 K&R nt |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
117. Let's take this bus to Washington |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #117 |
155. yes. lets |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #117 |
186. No. 1 on our llist has to be Plan B = OPTIONS . . .. !!! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. Why are you surprised? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Boy do I hear you, an oracle's work is never done |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 05:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
256. Creepy painting. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. I am not surprised, not at all. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
128. Same here |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #128 |
197. Ditto. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #197 |
203. Well said n/t |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #197 |
229. Debs said it best |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
236. Waste your vote? McCain or Obama...... hum....... Obama the better choice, still. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
47. It was a cynical ploy taking advantage of people's desires |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
85. Yup, now WE must reap what we have sown. |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
182. No...the rhetoric was not deceptive at all. |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
238. Deception or a workable reality? How long should it taek to fix all |
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lyonspotter (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
92. There weren't any choices... |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. the alternatives were "unelectable" |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #104 |
141. Just as they used to be in Venezuela. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #92 |
196. There were choices. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
96. Indeed. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
129. Would have gone for Kucinich in a heartbeat if I'd had the opportunity |
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maxpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #129 |
152. Me too |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:15 AM Response to Reply #129 |
240. I hoped to vote |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
156. i would have |
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rapturedbyrobots (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
212. that's the question |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
228. my thoughts exactly |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
5. No one believed me when I cited his quotation in the NYer saying he wasn't sure how he would have v |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
6. He didn't say he'd leave Afghanistan right away. What he said was: |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. People never listened to him, they just bitch after the fact |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. It can be reasonably argued |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Jeezus Christ! That was on August 01, 2007. |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
185. A) it wasn't "his" first surge, it was Bush's surge... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #185 |
205. That same tired line. |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. Ok... but stop complaining about him "lying" or "selling rhetoric that doesn't match actions. |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. And BTW - he HAS learned something... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #210 |
218. Well said |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #210 |
222. Assuming, of course, that Bin Laden is still alive |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. Did I SAY sending more would help? No. I said the opposite. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #223 |
225. I did misread that part of your post |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #225 |
230. My answer is simple, even though your straw man is obvious,. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
63. ... n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
76. I heard that. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
87. I always new this and it's part of the reason why i have never |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
102. He also said he opposed mandated insurance |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
124. +1000000000000000000 |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
166. we don't give a turd anymore what the weasel has said |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm pissed and disappointed too.... BUT if you voted for him because |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I think there will be an exit strategy this time. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
198. I'll believe when I see it |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Indeed. That bears repeating. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
137. I voted for him because he said he did not and would not |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #137 |
164. I'm making a point that has something to do with this thread. You're not. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
165. You're right about that aspect of it cali. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. If you voted for him for that reason, |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. You voted for the wrong guy. He repeatedly promised to escalate Afganistan. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
160. there is nobody you could have voted into office |
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beyond cynical (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. No you didn't... |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Another good link. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
40. He should be selling that in the media not "40k more troops, sorry" |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. It will take both force and diplomacy. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
14. Why in the world did you vote for Obama then? He said the war if Afghanistan was necessary |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Because the alternative was John "100 years" McCain |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I didn't in the primary. In the general it was either |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
139. there were third party candidates, as well having the option to abstain from voting that race. |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #139 |
189. I could have written in my choice, or I could have stayed home; |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
62. ... n/t |
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vikdavis (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. One way or other |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
16. The point to my Op is... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. He said he was against stupid wars and he seems to have flip flopped on that. These wars are stupid |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
48. JVS, you have hit the nail upon the head. This war is stuck on stupid. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. That's like marrying someone and thinking they'll change to be what you want. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
153. How Many Countries Have Tried & Failed In This Country??? How In |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. Prepare to be told what he did or didn't say in this or that speech when he was campaigning |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Well, without being a jerk about it, what's wrong with that? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
200. Then if a loved one of yours dies over there . . |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #200 |
209. That's the most absurd thing I've read today. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. The absurd thing is sending more troops to certain death in an endless war |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #213 |
247. Now I'm saying the war is noble? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #247 |
251. You sure seem proud that he is escalating the war |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #251 |
252. English must be your fifth language. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Are we making it up? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I'm not understanding the importance |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I didn't see that in the posts. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. regarding the op |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. hmmmmm I see |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. no, you got that wrong |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. I won't take you personally. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I didn't mean nothin' |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
133. He SHOULD end both wars now. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
61. deleted. wrong place. n/t |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
130. Best post of the day |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
167. most of them are on ignore now |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
215. LOL! And here they are. n/t |
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Paper Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
26. K & R |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
28. kicked and recommended |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
29. have they met? ./nt |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
36. He promised to end the wars. Now he needs to do it. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. No he didn't. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
38. Pres. Obama... we can't afford an Empire any more! nt |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
43. Withdrawal of Iraqi troops are going on right now, aren't they? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. actually |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
64. Hopefully that will happen...I've been keeping my eye on that as well. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
44. Did you sleep thru the part that he said it would be an 18 month timeline |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Yes, he did have an 18 month plan for Iraq. n/t |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
46. Where have you been? He never said anything about abandoning Afghanistan |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
59. ... n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
49. "Bring it on!" "Smoke 'em out" are now Democratic values. K&R |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. They always were you just deluded yourself into thinking |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Nope. The Democratic party has proven, and proving again, that it's a war party. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Must just make you so angry!!! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Angry? Naw. I got angry in '64 when the Dems decided to continue that other lost war. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Comparing Vietnam with Afghanistan is |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Apples and oranges, in this case, is a very apt comparison. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. And yet the anti war movement could be drowned in a bathtub. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. The polls show that most Americans want out of Afghanistan. Not more of the same. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. No the polls show it as a split decision. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. In '67 it was 70% vs 17% for/against. Then the bodies started coming home. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I think the US body count in Iraq caused a turn in opinion against that occupation |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. More comparing of Apples and Oranges. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. No. But, I vividly remember it on CBS News in '67. And, it being used by the apologists. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. LOL! So no prof. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Nah. Just a locker-room apologist for imperialistic lost wars. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Nice little comrade. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. I'll let you know when I get my check from the Kremlin, Senator. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. LOL! |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
88. Could Obama do anything that you would not defend? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Nope. Is their anything that you will not use to attack him? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. I never attack him unless his actions (or inactions) warrant. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. And it's O.K. for you to constantly have nothing but |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. have said quite a number of good things about Obama. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I haven't read them. All I have seen from you |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. You should pay more attention. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. So you are in the purity brigade. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. You, now that you have admitted your status as a.... |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Well you were never relevant to begin with |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #95 |
216. Really? Nothing he could do you wouldn't defend? |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
176. I hope you are right but I see that what the people want really doesn't matter. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
112. ^years ago, apples-oranges, at this time? same-same. |
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lyonspotter (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
93. We used to be the anti-war party. NT |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #93 |
113. When? |
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TicketyBoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
54. During the campaign |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
234. Good post |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
58. 'You can take that to the bank!' |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Full context. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Ah...understood. n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
66. Did you miss all that stuff about focusing on the "right war"? |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. 'You can take that to the bank!' |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. He was talking about Iraq. So far, he's been following the 18-mo timeline he promised. nt |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Thanks for clearing that up. The video doesn't offer enough context. n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
77. Of course, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Which was a reasonable response. Voting against Obama would have been embarrassingly shortsighted. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Except that he was campaigned as the anti-war |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
107. I know what he said during the campaign, but.. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
142. That was really all we could do, at that point. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. Right war? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
72. Are we trying to conquer it? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
82. then you made an uninformed vote |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. mister, can you spare ANY change I can believe in? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
114. Sit down and shut up, Why are you a "hater"? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
89. Are you really surprised that he is doing this? |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
90. President Obama said during the election that he would fight in Afghanistan. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. Agreed. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
254. "Nobody can claim surprise" |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #90 |
115. And I promised to resist him. A promise I renew with each step he makes into "Af-Pak" |
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mullard12ax7 (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
98. This Iraq War is Over! It Really Is! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
116. Simple question: did candidate Barack Obama state that he would pull out of Afghanistan |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
119. sucker |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
120. Agreed & recommended. |
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yellowwood (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
123. I'm So Glad You Said That! |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
125. It will be a truly wicked plan - hand in hand with the crapsurance bill. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
126. I voted to get out of Iraq and pay more attention to Afghanistan. |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
127. i thought anyone with a brain would get us out of there, but no. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
131. Well then you weren't paying attention to all the campaign speeches |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
132. No war, no blank check to those profiteering off it. It's not like wars have to be funded |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
135. Yes I know...I feel the same way |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
136. actually- all you did was vote for him. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
138. He campaigned on sending more troops to Afghanistan. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. He campaigned on 'No Mandated Purchase' |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. No, that you can't be surprised that he's sticking to those words. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. He should not have done that. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I didn't say it was a good policy. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Please look up the words 'hope' and 'threat' |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. My mistake, so here's a better example: |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. You're the one trying to turn Dems into pukes by defending their every step in that direction |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. Once again, learn to read before you post. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Actually, you did not say that. And the evidence that you didn't is here for everyone to read. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Then I'll spell it out in simple and plain English so that even you can understand. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. It would have been far better if you'd started out saying that. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #146 |
170. Well, he also promised hope, change, jobs, and a public option. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. For one, "hope" and "change" are vague, undefinable terms in politics. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. No, I wasn't expecting Kucinich. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #146 |
204. Then you have no right to grieve for the soldiers that will die |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #204 |
220. Did you vote for Obama? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #220 |
250. We weren't given an anti-war alternative, it was Warmonger A vs. Warmonger B |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #250 |
253. I take that as a yes. |
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pengillian101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #138 |
188. Does anybody read anymore? |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
143. 12 years of illegitimate Bush government. He cheated 2x. O continues the legacy. |
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N_E_1 for Tennis (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
149. It's All About The Pipelines. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
158. Ya Know, The BFEE Must Be Laughing Their Asses Off! n/t |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
159. War. It's America's business. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
161. i hope you don't mind |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
162. Don't blame me. I voted for Dennis Kucinich. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
168. I'm not supporting any escalation |
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BooBluePotion (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
169. +1 |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
171. LOL |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
172. Talk is cheap, regardless from which politician it comes from. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
174. I agree Trumad but Obama did promise to increase troop levels and finish |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #174 |
202. Not like any of us had a choice |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
177. I can see the logic of the Democratic Party |
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sandyj999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
179. What has Become of the Man I voted for? I think the aliens took him. n/t |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
180. Obama said all along he might escalate Afghanistan |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
181. Well I guess you weren't listening. He said he'd withdraw from Iraq |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
183. Bring our troops home NOW -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. Pelosi & Reid have also ignored the anti-war vote .... since '06 . . . !!!! |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
187. You assume he's acually in charge - I don't anymore. nt |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
192. I agree completely |
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Stumbler (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
193. Sorry. Sounds like you should've backed Kucinich |
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thegoodfight (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
201. wtf |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
206. trumad, I'm with you. K&R. |
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twitomy (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
207. What alternate reality were you in during the campaign? |
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closetliberal (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
211. Well he has had since August to make a damn decision...what gives? |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
214. Yes...I had such hopes for Obama....now I am not so sure anymore... |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
221. What did you think? |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
224. I wanted to vote for a real Progressive |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #224 |
241. Oh, they have |
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Vroomfondel (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
226. At the risk of repeating myself.... |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
227. During the primaries, I was a single-issue voter: Out of the WARS! |
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BillDU (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
231. Don't know. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
233. Spot on... |
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FlyByNight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
237. K & R |
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thegoodfight (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #237 |
239. Thankyou |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #237 |
242. Couldn't have said it better |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
243. Barack Obama is doing exactly what he promised. |
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lovelyrita (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
244. Makes me fell sick. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
245. K&R. no. 166. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #245 |
246. K&R |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
249. You didn't listen to him during the campaign, did you? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
255. I'm happy to see that people are waking up to the lies we've been fed. nt |
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