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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:07 AM
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List of people not allowed to take communion - this is priceless!!
From Catholic.com - http://www.catholic.com/library/Who_Can_Receive_Communion.asp

1 Cor. 6:9–10
" (9) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders (10) nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Gal. 5:19–21

"(19) The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; (20) idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions (21) and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."

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If they really followed these guidelines they would save a ton of money on communion expenses!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:10 AM
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1. Based on this definition...
There are a bunch of folks in the Catholic Church who wouldn't be allowed to OFFER communion...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:11 AM
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2. But, OH HOW GOOD IT FEELS, when you get that wafer and you know
that you've decieved all those hatefilled pedophiles!

I just KNEW there was something wrong when they looked THAT way toward the baby in the manger!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:43 PM
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12. My youngest sister had a funeral mass in St Petersburg, Florida
Edited on Mon Nov-23-09 02:44 PM by malaise
When we were planning the service the priest asked me if I was a practicing catholic. I told him I was an atheist. As he greeted us at the beginning of the service he told me I would not be allowed to receive communion. It was my only laugh for days and I laughed in his face and told him I was only in his church for my sister's service. We gave each other the look over more than once during the service.

They are sick people.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:56 PM
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15. I am sorry for your loss
but this is precious. He actually thought you'd feel bad that you were not allowed to take communion?

I expect the same when my hubby's relatives die. I am nominally Jewish...

So you will not be able to take communion...

And ye shall not believe in other god's before me Father...

I know I will byte my tongue...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 05:52 PM
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22. And that was what made me laugh
He thought it would upset me.
As I said, they are sick and delusional. :hi:

She died in 2005.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:58 PM
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16. In Kindergarten it's milk and graham crackers, but
you can't piss off the teacher if you want your snack.

It seems that principle is universal: When you want something they have, they will make you do humiliating dog-like tricks to get it.

On the otherhand, rejecting their offering leaves them powerless, doesn't matter if they are priests, pundits or politicians.

Laughing in their face won't get you a cookie but you will get pissed on. Everytime.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:12 AM
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3. Remember the hoop-la when Giuliani went to take communion upon the installation of the new
New York Archbishop? He was told not to and there he went, up to get his wafer, in pure defiance.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 05:58 PM
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23. I love it when "hoop-la" is worked into a sentence !
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:13 AM
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4. "Homosexual offenders"?
My, my, my, talk about translator's gloss! The word "homosexual" is a Greek-Latin hybrid word coined in the 19th century. I wonder what word the translator of 1 Cor 6 : 9 was facing that he or she decided to put such a modern gloss on it? And, perhaps more to the point, why?
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:22 AM
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6. Sorry - Bible verses taken from the New International Version. Not from the Catholic site.
That's just what popped up when I searched them on Google.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:34 AM
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10. Here's the 16th century King James version
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

Apparently it's those last two that the more modern translations interpret as "homosexual offender".


But then this verse was written by a guy named Paul who had a hangup about ANY kind of sex at all, even married heterosexuals. And the Catholics took his personal choice of celibacy and turned it into a career prerequisite for their clergy.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:39 PM
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11. Putting a 21st century gloss on things . . .
Makes it problematical in any event. Paul was quite familiar with the practices of his day, as were the people he was writing his letters to. He didn't see the need to spell out every last little detail of commonly known things, anymore than we would feel the need to go into detail about everyday things like waiting in line at the DMV or going into a public restroom. It's a dicey matter to take these shorthand comments out of their context and pretend that this represents the entirety of the sum and substance of thinking on any particular subject.

Not that there's a shortage of folks willing to do that, then and now, for their own purposes.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 04:02 PM
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21. Hmm, no witchcraft mentioned in that passage as well.
Edited on Mon Nov-23-09 04:03 PM by juno jones
Looks like somebody took it upon themselves to add 'witches' to idolaters . God knows what else is changed in some versions of the bible.

And the King James ain't exactly the least political and opportunist translation either.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:17 AM
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5. Today's Catholic: Right-wing Republicans only
So according to this bishop - or whatever the $%#* he is - only anti-choice Republicans can be considered as rule-abiding Catholics.
By extension, I suppose Democrats are out.
The Catholic Workers, I suppose, are out also.

What an absolute joke.

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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:24 AM
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7. According to these rules, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't qualify.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:25 AM
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8. Hypocrisy seems to be the main ingredient of most established religions. n/t
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:28 AM
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9. It's not a Church, it's a closed club.
All it needs is a secret handshake.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:45 PM
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13. what a fraud
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:52 PM
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14. my step father was a priest
for 27 years (a good one - not a pedophile)and by these rules, he should have been kicked out. He and all his priest buddies drank too much and he personally had anger issues.

He got his dispensation from the church under John Paul I and was even able to marry my mom in the church a couple of years later. Thank God my step father passed away before we all found out that his best buddy and the head priest at our old church was a pedophile.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:18 PM
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17. My cousin was a priest as well. The Church didn't take away
his alcoholic beverages, cigars, and women, the doctor did.;-)
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:23 PM
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18. haha!
seems like a trend with them. I don't begrudge any of that however when the church starts taking away their communion rights for issues it finds to be wrong, it seems more than hypocritical when the priests themselves act contrary to their own laws.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:26 PM
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19. People used to ignore it all.
That was until Bush/Cheney and Ratzinger. Now, quite a few people have stopped going to Church. The Bishops are becoming a problem.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:28 PM
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20. Drunkeness and orgies. Uh oh, I'm screwed.
They'll have to keep my wafer.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 05:58 PM
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24. "greedy" and "selfish ambition".
I always suspected the GOP would be "left behind" come the rapture, now I know it!
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