Question :: How many Child Abusers did the Bishop publicly deny 'Holy Communion' ?

[TheCoxwain]

If he did .. i did not hear of any .. but he thinks a Kennedy should be denied for helping people.. What an asshole!!!


The bishop should "Zip it up" .. and ask his fellow bishops to zip it up too !!!

[KansDem]

1. I find it odd that an organization that harbored pedophiles...

...should have a say in our national health-care debate.

[niyad]

2. enlighten, please?

[rurallib]

4. Bishop Tobin in Rhode Island said Patrick Kennedy was to no

longer be given communion due to his stance on abortion.

[rurallib]

3. How many war supporters? How many deniers of health care?

ETA - how many couples who practice birth control?

[democrat_patriot]

5. Tax. Them.

We could pay down the debt with tax on churches.

[Warpy]

8. Tax any church that tries to play politics

by getting its dogma inserted into civil law. Right now that means the Mormons and the Catholics, although the Southern Baptists and a lot of indie wingnut churches need to be looked at, too.

It's too bad because all congregations aren't created equal and some of all those denominations do more about caring for the people who are already here than freaking about the ones who aren't.

[Bitwit1234]

13. Well if they are going to let some religions have a say

how about Wickans and Muslims and Atheists and all those. After all if we let one tell us what to do we should have a panel of all. That would stop them.

[juno jones]

18. Tax 'em all, let the IRS sort 'em out.

They can produce the paperwork for charitable actions if they wish to keep their status.

There's more than a few that need some serious scrutiny of accounts.

[MNDemNY]

6. Fuck-a-bunch-of-bishops.

[baldguy]

7. How many supporters of the death penalty? Or supporters of the Iraq War?

How many divorcees? Supporters of birth control?

[napi21]

9. Bill Press was talking about this this morning on his radio show.

His callers said the same things you folks have said. I'm Catholic but I feel they really are being hypocrits with all this grand standing about abortion, bt no statements about the DP, war, divorce, infidelity, and all the other things the Church teaches are mortal sins too!

[Goblinmonger]

10. Don't shoot the messenger, but his stance on abortion is a mortal sin

and he cannot take communion with a mortal sin on his soul. The fact that he hasn't changed his stance is indication that even if he has gone to confession, he has not repented. So, he should not be taking communion.

Now, I think it's all mumbo-jumbo, but the rules of the church are pretty clear.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

12. The problem is with the inconsistent application of the church rules.

The death penalty is against church policy also, but I've yet to see any Catholics supporting the death penalty denied communion.

[ensho]

11. tax them!

tax the women haters

[whathehell]

14. An excellent question.

[treestar]

15. They need to worry more about the post born

If they spent the energy they spend on the unborn on the born, they might make the world a bit better place.

[Beer Snob-50]

16. my take on this whole mess

a priest has the right to deny communion to whomever he wants. granted if they deny it to everyone who has a mortal sin on his/her soul then there would be a glut of communion wafers.

anyway, i do have a problem with them publicly withholding a sacrament. it is between the priest and the person in question. now he is trying to (in what i think is a very legal way) sway public policy.

[Generic Other]

17. A very disturbing reminder of the need for separation of church and state

Reposting my comments from another thread:

Neither Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Jew should be using government to promote their religious beliefs. It is a fundamental and often under appreciated 1st amendment right that everyone of us should protect with our lives. The religious warfare of other nations throughout history should tell us something about the wisdom of our enlightened forefathers who were wise enough to put god outside the door of the statehouse and inside the church where he belonged.

Today, we are seeing the churches exerting unbelievable and corrupt influence on our government. Not just Catholics--Mormons are you listening--religious sects of every sort are attempting to frame public policy based on their own religious proscriptions. Add to this an enormous and ignorant Bible belt Protestantism that has left the majority of congregations in America in the hands conmen and thieves rather than sons of the enlightenment and you get superstitious ignorant worshippers ready to kowtow to any edict however irrational it may be. Religion has become so institutionalized and twisted that it has no meaning other than the dangerous political pull it exerts. And I am not going to leave the Jews out of this general rant I am giving. I don't think it is antisemitic in the least in the context of this discussion to bring up the problem of religious beliefs influencing one's sentiments about foreign politics. It is not a sin to feel empathy for/or connections to Jerusalem, the Vatican, Bethlehem, Mecca, Katmandu, wherever. But it is unAmerican to allow one's religious sentiments to influence his or her civic decisions which must take into account the common good before one's own personal and religious convictions.

That's what our enlightened forefathers told us, Father Tobin. What you are telling us is that our revolution won us nothing but the foot of Rome on our necks. I say you're wrong. I stand with the gentleman from the free state of Rhode Island--a state founded on the principles of religious tolerance. I stand with the Congressman who was elected to serve all the people of his district--not his church.

[Cleita]

19. Remember when they almost denied Kerry communion because he

favored abortion rights for women, but they backed off because it was political? It seems the Vatican should pull the reins on this Bishop for the same reasons. I definitely think his diocese should get a visit from the IRS to review its tax free status.