I worry about Glenn Beck. Yes, I know most of you don't

[Taverner]

You think everyone should be reasonable enough to see him as a first-class wacko. But you'd be wrong.

Glenn Beck is going to have a convention on education. Glenn Beck is behind the teabagger movement. In addition, he is the one who is telling bald-faced lies about ACORN and SEIU "stealing" the last election - and of course by stealing, he means allowing African Americans to vote.

He is a very scary person with some very scary goals. His "mentor" is a racist psychopath whom even the LDS Church thought was too crazy.

I know this is probably immature, but his are the kind of rantings you would expect to find in Mein Kampf. His "other" whom he fears and detests is a long one, as is Hitlers: The Liberal Media (who does his bidding for some reason,) The Rockerfellers, ACORN, SEIU, NBC and of Course Progressivism itself (us.)

You can dismiss him as a kook - but dismiss at your peril, for he is a dangerous kook.

[Warpy]

1. Beck seems to have taken the baton dropped by

Falwell and passed by Dobson and he's got the tent meeting preacher's delivery down pat. That's the sort of person he's going to appeal to, the good churchgoer in the heartland (especially) who zones out when s/he hears that sort of stuff delivered and thinks everything the speaker says is good, true, pure, and godly.

That's what makes him so dangerous. The only thing we can hope for is the breakdown he looks like he's headed for.

[Taverner]

3. Perfect conditions for a Mao, Hitler or Stalin

To use his sense of paranoia...

[NoPasaran]

2. I bet he rakes his leaves out into the street too!

[emulatorloo]

7. Probably pays somebody to do that for him.

[LWolf]

4. He's a deadly weapon.

I don't know if I "worry" about him, but I recognize him as dangerous. I live in an area where many are his fans, and I get blowback regularly.

He's dangerous to the well-being of the nation.

[emulatorloo]

6. My sister lives in fear of "what's going to happen" because she watches Beck and Hannity everyday

It is sad really, but there is nothing I can do about it. The other reaction his fans have is ANGER. Fear and Anger.

[LWolf]

28. Keep people locked into fear and anger,

and reason never enters the picture.

That's how to maintain the "them and us" mentality, how to divide people, and how to control them.

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. I underestimate him at times, but I have to give him credit today.

If you want to milk the rubes, nothing better than a 9 month book promotion tour under the guise of regional "Education Conventions" so that he can listen to the "experts", write down what they are saying and then sell a gazillion copies at the "launch rally" in DC next summer.

That is about the most devious way of making a buck that I can think of.

My hat is off to him for creativity.

[Golden Raisin]

8. I am concerned as well.

Beck has the power/advantage of a very public forum to reach the fearful and angry (his supporters). Another one I do not write off as a joke (although many do) is Palin.

[Taverner]

17. Her Theocratic leanings scare me too

Thing about Hitler (and I know someone's going to bring Godwin's Law into this) is everything he did as Chancellor, he said he'd do in Mein Kampf. There was no surprise.

Think about what Palin wants to do, creating a "godly" nation...

[JustAnotherGen]

9. I agree

Let them all call us reactionist and short-sighted. Don't care. I'm in agreement - and I think his 'God Like' status among his fans is very very scary.


Remember the Rwanda genocide? You went back to the Hitler era - I'm just going to go back about 15 years. "Cut the tall trees." How soon before he asks his viewers to do so? And to the point another poster made re: fear AND anger. That anger he is generating? That's what scares me.

I find him to be a very frightening human being. I'm pointing out Human Being because should one of his viewers troll by here? He's no God. He's a human being who is leading you down a dangerous path.

I've no problem with Conservatism. What he is preaching is NOT Conservatism. It's Fascist activity/thoughts for the this Millenium. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[get the red out]

12. +1

Agree completely. Actual Conservatives are long gone, they could be reasoned with and debated in a civilized manner. The replacement is very much like a torch-bearing rabble coming to destroy the monster their leader told them about. The monster doesn't exist, but they will find and kill him anyway, doesn't really make a difference, there must be death.

There's always the "other" the "monster" that is the cause of your problems, and no one will actually come together to work on this nation's problems as long as so many people feel that the monster is the sole cause and must simply be eliminated. It is scary to me.

[hardcoreliberal]

10. Glenn Beck is just making money

He's no different than Coulter and Limbaugh and Hannity and O'Reilly and all the rest.

I don't have the link, but there's a YouTube video of him putting Vick's Vaporub under his eyes in order to fake crying on air. He's doing it for the cash, nothing more, nothing less. If some freakshow out there ends up killing someone over his rantings, he doesn't give a shit. He's a greedy pig like the rest of them with no conscience.

[Taverner]

18. He has tasted power though...

He may have got into it for the money, but he's staying in it for the power...same with Palin

[Naturyl]

33. That's true, and yet he's no less dangerous.

His followers aren't seeing a penny of the mega-millions he is raking in. They are following because they are true believers, and true believers are dangerous. If Beck is willing to lead them down the garden path for mere money, how much more willing would he be to do so for actual power?

[tblue37]

11. He has been able to force people in Obama's adminsitration to resign, so

obviously he is someone we ned to worry about.

[Taverner]

19. +1

[pscot]

13. Yeah, I worry about him too

Anyone with his head that far up his ass is likely to trip over something and hurt himself.

[keep_it_real]

14. Worrying about beck is like worring about a roach, a rat or a snak or satan.

L o r d (if you exist) bless us from beck, Amen.

[Taverner]

20. More like a roach carrying the Bubonic Plague

[onestepforward]

15. I'm concerned too.

Beck and his ilk are pros at stirring up people's emotions. When emotions run high, objective thinking literally takes a backseat. This is how they successfully inject their poisonous lies into their followers' minds. They also "feed" people's anger causing them to feel a temporary sense of power and because it is only temporary, their followers come back for more.

The misinformation that has spewed from Beck & Co. is what has basically destroyed any form of honest discussion and debate in our country. It is now practically impossible to have a constructive political discussion with anyone who watches Beck. Facts are shunned by these folks and I think that this is what is so concerning.

[havocmom]

16. I agree with you. It is staggering to me how many people I hear who think he is some great leader

They believe EVERYTHING he says and never bat an eye when he contradicts himself.

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[Raster]

22. Beck isn't "behind" the tea bag movement, he's just their paid spokes-fanatic.

Beck is the younger, visually-approved version of Rush. He's an all-American-ish appearing, kinda golden-boy wannabe that's really trying way too hard, but says *just* the right things for the wrong people.

BECK: <cue tears>with real, authentic, contrived emotion: "...I really love America..."

[StarfarerBill]

23. As I said in another thread about Beck:

If we allow the likes of him to gain real political/economic power, the argument can made that we deserve what we then get.

We can do better than him and most of the other pols we have in power now, but we have to work for it; the Corporate Mob will be only too happy to continue choosing the majority of our elected officials for us, otherwise.

[ezgoingrl]

24. OH, I thought you meant like he's got a brain tumor or some

undiagnosed mental illness. But I do agree that it seems the real nutty right wingers are willing to line up behind this guy who is obviously unstable.

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[ClayZ]

26. Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck and Seven Mountians

Google Sarah Palin 7 Mountians

Let me do that for you! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Glenn+Beck+Seven+Mountians

http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/11/sarah_palin_and_the_rapture.php

20 Nov 2009 01:23 pm
Ever curious about the eschatological implications of that Sarah Palin quote from her interview with Barbara Walters -- the one in which she said she believes that "more and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead" -- I called the executive director of the Pre-Trib Research Center at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., Dr. Thomas Ice. The Pre-Trib Center is one of the preeminent evangelical institutions in this country arguing for literal Bible prophecy, and especially for pre-millenial dispensationalism, a complicated belief system that concerns the conditions that must obtain on Earth before Jesus can return ("Pre-Trib" is short for "pre-tribulation.") One of the more famous conditions, of course, is the ingathering of the Jewish people in Israel. There are hundreds of variations of Protestant prophetic belief, but the Jewish role is generally crucial; very dramatic things will happen to the Jews in these prophetic belief systems, including their conversion to Christianity and their mass death in the battle of Armageddon.

I've been writing about these belief systems for a while, and an alarm bell went off in my head when I heard Palin talk about "days and weeks." It's quite one thing to say that Israel needs settlements to contain its growing population (a belief unsupported by the facts, but I'll deal with that another time), but it's something else entirely to predict that Jews in the Diaspora will imminently be flooding the Holy Land. I asked Dr. Ice if he thought that this statement by Palin, who has been exposed to this brand of evangelical thinking in her Alaska churches, was informed by these beliefs.

"I've read that Palin has been part of an apparently unique movement I've heard of -- that her pastor, when she was in the Assembly of God, believed based on some personal revelation he claims to have gotten from God, that the Jews would move to Alaska during the Tribulation. But nevertheless, my understanding from what I've seen is that she holds fairly typical Protestant Zionist beliefs, and one of those beliefs is the regathering of the Jews in Israel."

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSeFPLLz54

[TheCowsCameHome]

27. I only worry to the extent that he wakes up in the morning.

[Gman2]

29. Beck, Savage, Hannity, Rush, are not the problem, there will always be carpetbaggers

The problem is, we have a population that eats that shit up right now. We have MANY republicans that think they will expell all liberals. Soon as they commit armed insurrection. The people are crazy with dread of a passing era. Leading into global climate change, not much good news about the future. So, circle the wagons, and pine about the bygone era, that never was. Wish away change, and progress. Keep that status quo, for yourself, till you retire, no matter who's future you have to fuck over. Your own child, fuck them, I need to sustain the lifestyle I have become accustomed to. These people are old, set in their ways, and unappologetic about it. They will scream like fools, saying nothing, to ward off any harm to the status quo. Thinking the SQ was the thing that loved them. All these years. By 2012, many children, that witnessed the whole Bush era, will vote not idiot based, like their fearful parents. They will surely then break out the second ammendment fix. Cuz, they will continue to be the minority, perhaps, to an ever more extent. I for one, will work till death, or a bit short, as wingers will femacamp us in an instant. Charge, treason. Liberal, same diff.

[UTUSN]

30. You *asked* for it----------- He knows THE SECRET!1

[UTUSN]

34. To clarify: This is a reference to his & Dr Frank-N-Furter's always claiming a "secret":

It seems like every few weeks or months he is hinting at ANOTHER secret he can't talk about right this minute, but will reveal it in X number of days, always herding his sheep along. It's just one DISCOVERY after another!1


That said, his always-hinting-at-a-secret-to-be-revealed struck me in tonight's replay of Rocky Horror, where Tim CURRY said, "I have discovered the secret!1 Yes, I know the secret of life!1"

So BecKKK ought to go around revealing his "secret" dressed as Dr Frank-N-Furter--and yet, his zombie followers would STILL flock and parrot him!1

**********QUOTE********
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/rhps.shtml

FRANK
That's how I discovered the secret.
That elusive ingredient, that spark
that is the breath of life.

**********UNQUOTE*********

[tavalon]

31. Here's why I don't worry too much about him

The Crazy burns brightly in his eyes. He will be dead or locked up within a year. Limbaugh is more dangerous because he has all of his faculties. Glenn Beck does not.

[Naturyl]

32. I'm not too worried... yet.

If he ever runs for major public office, it's time to get worried.

He does not resemble Hitler exactly simply because today's America is a very different time and place. But he is what Hitler would be if Hitler were an American in 2009.

[Tsar_Bomba]

35. I'm not afraid of Beck or his followers

but It's better to be prepared for trouble ahead. The followers of Beck are the ones who will suffer consequences of economic change. I'm not saying overall change will be bad, people with good education will do well. The S Palin rabble will not. So imagine a group of people finding making ends meet harder and placing blame of their unhappiness on "leftist" policy.

[Tsar_Bomba]

36. I'm not afraid of Beck or his followers

but It's better to be prepared for trouble ahead. The followers of Beck are the ones who will suffer consequences of economic change. I'm not saying overall change will be bad, people with good education will do well. The S Palin rabble will not. So imagine a group of people finding making ends meet harder and placing blame of their unhappiness on "leftist" policy.