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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 01:27 PM Original message |
Oppose The Government/Corporate Take Over Of Healthcare! Say No To Big Business/Government! |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Another Frequent False Right Wing Talking Point Packaged As A "Liberal" One - Medicare Will Be Cut! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. With all due respect, there is a difference between government takeover of health care and |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That Is Just A Converted RW Talking Point - Look At The Swiss Model... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. And you left out the fact that the Swiss private insurance model bans profit |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. So, you admit that private companies provide insurance in the Swiss Model and it can work? |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Do you admit that the bills going through Congress right now are not the same as the Swiss system? |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. So, you would not mind the swiss system? |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. My views on the Swiss system are irrelevant because we are not adopting the Swiss system |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Swiss System, Mandates, Subsidies, Basic Set Of Benefits, Private Insurance |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You accused mmonk of being on the side of Freedom Works |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Oh, sorry about that, you are right... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Few people in America would call BANNING PROFIT a mark of private enterprise |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Once Again - That's A Myth - The Swiss System Is NOT Non-Profit |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Big difference between what is before our Senate and House right now and the Swiss system |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Sure there is. But the Swiss Model Does Have Private Insurance Involvement. Deal Killer... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. That is not my approach. I would like single payer but know it is not the only answer |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. No, No, No...The Swiss System Is Not Single Payer, Here Is NPR's Discussion |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. People who believe them are confused, not us. This is a bill |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Thanks for that string of slogans... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. TomCADem, I think somebody slipped some Kool-aid in your coffee this morning. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. ^What you said^ |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Are You Purposely Lying? AHIP and US Chamber of Commerce OPPOSE The Bills |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. And AARP helps sell private health insurance. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. AHIP IS Big Insurance. What's your explaination for AHIP and the U.S. Chamber Opposing Reform? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I'm not against reform. I'm for reform that has as its focus the welfare |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. Health Care Corporations already own healthcare. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. Instead of paying taxes to the government, we will be paying taxes directly |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. Insurance companies need to replace upwards of 100 million |
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