"I don't want to pay for insurance for people who don't work."

[arbusto_baboso]

We've all heard this one from teabagging fuckwits over the past few months. It's basically the current equivalent of "get a job, you bum!"

There's some very basic trouble with this thinking.

First, with national unemployment at around 10% (and that's the happy, shiny massaging of the figures) jobs aren't easily found. Second, huge numbers of employers DO NOT OFFER health insurance.

So, the reality is, health care reform isn't for "bums who don't work". It's for the people who are unlucky enough to have been hit by disaster that is the US economy. And opposing it is tantamount to killing fellow Americans.

That's what the teabaggers are advocating, really: the murder - by neglect - of other Americans that THEY don't find "worthy".

[saltpoint]

1. As to the least of these, then as to me,

in the words of that Middle East guy from olden times.

[Sebastian Doyle]

2. Funny you should mention Him

seeing how He was technically homeless and unemployed Himself.

[saltpoint]

8. Yes. Today's modern Republicans would shun him as an undesirable,

someone they "wouldn't pay health insurance" for.

[Angry Dragon]

12. Shun him

they would not believe him if he came knocking on their door and said he had returned. They would either shoot him, lock him up, or slam the door in his face.

[saltpoint]

18. He likely wouldn't make it past the guarded entry of their gated communities.

[Naturyl]

16. "Get a job, longhaired bum."

The Good Lord wouldn't last 10 seconds with these people. He was not "respectable" in the slightest.

[saltpoint]

19. The Socialist Jesus would make the Jim Dobsons and Pat Robertsons cringe.

They'd do whatever it took to snuff him out, no question.

[Naturyl]

27. Yep, just like the Pharisees and others did to him the first time.

Jesus was a Jew. Fellow Jews were his biggest opponents.

If Jesus would now be a Christian, it would be Christians doing him in this time.

[saltpoint]

30. The Fundies did a lot of damage over the last 20 years or so in

U.S. politics.

They screeching voices seem to be fading a bit these days, which is good.

The less of Fred Phelps and his ilk we hear, the better off we're likely to be.

Same for Jerry Falwell, a man I certainly do not miss.

I entertain fantasies in which the lone surviving Bigfoot, enraged and out of control by his near-extinction, inexplicably bursts onto the set of Pat Robertson's televangilism show and pounds him to a bloody pulp.

[Kermitt Gribble]

79. LOL! Love the bigfoot fanstasy!!!

:rofl:

[dugaresa]

93. the Republic-ans of that era crucified him for upsetting the social order

and for trying to rock the boat

[saltpoint]

95. Yes. Our side tends to like that boat-rockin' while the Pukes then and now

seem to run from it.

There's a demographic fault-line in there somewhere.

[BR_Parkway]

20. Talk about "Death Panels"

[Taverner]

21. Back when I was a kid in Fundie school, I was told he was a working carpenter the whole time

Something like "Jesus never missed a day of work in his life! He was a contractor in fact!"


B.S. I know but since when have Fundies told the truth?

[Naturyl]

28. Ah yes, the "hard-working Jesus" myth.

It conveniently disregards the three final years when he had no economic profession and routinely relied on charity for subsistence - which were the very years of his ministry.

But "Christians" disregarding Jesus' whole ministry is hardly a new thing...

[Taverner]

34. Yes, most fundies I know should start calling themselves Paulinists

Rather than Christians...

Then again, no one really knows whether Jesus did in fact exist, and which gospels accurately depicted him or not

[Naturyl]

35. I have no idea whether he was an actual historical figure

But the Jesus of the Sermon on the Mount and of the "camel through the eye of a needle" is someone I admire greatly, whether real or mythical.

[Taverner]

37. True that - and if he didn't exsist, the Sermon on the Mount certainly does

And it's a good moral compass

[Taverner]

10. No way! I heard that guy supports gun rights and supply side economics!

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

11. Well, the apostles were armed in the garden.

Ears were lopped off, even.

Egads.

[Jackpine Radical]

70. What kinda radical hippie socialist screwball would say something like THAT?

[saltpoint]

98. Those darn truth-seeking rabble-rousing socialists -- they're always

up to no good!

[JerseygirlCT]

92. Right?

Can't tell you how dispiriting it has been of late, seeing the lines like those in the OP spewed by people who attended high school with me. You'd think perhaps a bit of that Catholic education might have seeped in... at least enough so that they might be embarrassed by their ugliness.

Apparently not. The same experience that gave me a strong sense of social justice (and many others there as well - I'm no paragon!) apparently gave these people the go-ahead to be simply awful.

Although when they find themselves in a bad space, they fully expect someone will be there to help them.

[saltpoint]

96. And you get to say that because you know what you are talking about

and live it.

The fundies distort everything they can get their hands on, including the New Testament.

It's a complex series of writings that more often than not suggest simple truths, and your posts on this site demonstrate that you understand that.

As for the fundies, well, I've pretty much given up on them.

:hi:

[JerseygirlCT]

100. It makes me very sad

Truly, how someone can think about saying "tough luck" like that to people in need... And then dress it up self-righteously as if they're doing something good.

Puzzling and sad all around, Saltpoint!

[saltpoint]

101. I respect the socialist, communal energy of the tenets of the ministry of

Jesus.

I do tend to bail out on Paul, but that's almost an entirely separate argument.

As you and I are exchanging DU posts, Sarah Palin dined with Billy and Franklin Graham.

This is a damned odd world.

[arbusto_baboso]

3. Wow, I had a rec a moment ago, and someone unrec'd me already!

Guess the paid unsurance company shills are hard at work on a Sunday morning, eh?

[Naturyl]

22. No, probably just a "progressive" who agrees

That people who don't work shouldn't have health care.

Methinks you'd be surprised how many DU'ers support or at least refuse to oppose the "he who does not work shall not eat" mentality.

Of course, they will always disguise it as only those who *refuse* work should be denied - as if that is any better. To right-wingers and many mainstream Americans, that distinction means everything. To me it means absolutely nothing.

Fact is, if you support denying anyone the basic necessities of life for any reason, you want them to die and are willing to participate in killing them. That's the cold hard fact of it - and there is absolutely nothing progressive about that.

[HughBeaumont]

4. How exactly do these morans think insurance WORKS?

Haven't these people ever heard of "pooling"? Do they think they just pay for themselves?

The more people who pay in it via tax dollars, the more people will be covered when they NEED it.

Randist loon: "Then the lazy and untalented will . . . (wait for it) . . . GAME THE SYSTEM"

No. It's called getting the care they NEED. They should all be asked "Is it only 'gaming the system' when the poor do it, or does that apply to the wealthy you all worship?"

[subterranean]

24. They don't care that the insurance companies are gaming the system

in various ways right now. They think it's OK to game the system if you make a profit from it.

[csziggy]

5. MOST of the people who go to the health care fairs WORK

But do not have insurance. Or have insurance that is basically only catastrophic since the deductible is so high they cannot afford routine visits to their doctors.
MOST of the people who declare bankruptcy WORK AND have insurance but still lose everything when they have serious health issues.

Why are the teabaggers not yelling at employers such as Wal-Mart who do not offer insurance to workers with under 30 hours a week and then refuse to schedule workers for a full 40 hour week so they would qualify for insurance? Wal-Mart is just the largest; many, many companies are doing this kind of thing to get out of offering benefits. It will probably be more if health insurance costs continue to soar.

[arbusto_baboso]

7. Precisely. WalMart offers all new employees instruction in how to apply for Medicaid and

food stamps.

If Wal Mart were a decent employer, none of its employees would need such services.

And the hell of it is, we subsidize this evil corp with tax breaks to "bring jobs" into an area. Then it winds up costing taxpayers even more.

Why does no one complain aout Corporate Welfare Queens?

[ckimmy57]

69. Wal Mart

I think they are one of the worst offenders at this. Shame on them assholes.

[Hyper_Eye]

75. 80% of them as matter of fact.

The teabaggers really don't know what they are talking about. When 80% of the people arriving at free health clinics are employed it obviously isn't an issue of laziness or a lack of interest or responsibility in obtaining health care coverage. The problem is the system as there shouldn't be a single working person who cannot afford to have access to good medical care.

[madrchsod]

6. just gave ya one...for pointing out the truth

[treestar]

Weird they don't think there are jobs that don't offer insurance

How out of it can they be?

[RufusTFirefly]

9. I'm a pedestrian. I don't want to pay for highway upkeep

Imagine how far I'd get with that argument.

[clarence swinney]

13. no work

majority on government welfare work at a job

Tens of thousands of GIs get Food Stamps

Take away their Insurance?

Jobs wanted ads everywhere here.

Clinton had Help wanted ads everywhere.

Wall Street raping our job market.

Rich get richer.

Hou much more before the people revolt

[e-mail]

[Naturyl]

14. Yep, it all hinges on their concept of "the undeserving."

Personally, as a huge economic lefty, I think everyone is deserving by default, unconditionally.

Right-wingers and most mainstream Americans disagree. Hell, quite a few DUer's disagree.

Sadly, American culture is just not ready for the idea that everyone deserves unconditional access to the necessities of life.

[napi21]

15. My cousin is a solid Dem and her Pub friend said something

similar to her about 2 weeks ago. Her response was "Well, if we had had the Gov't option before, we would still have our house!"

Her husband has his own business but his ins premiums went up so high they had to sell their house. He received a pancreas transplant about 8 years ago and can't gp without ins.

[ckimmy57]

72. How sad

but unfortunaley we see more and more of this. My husband also owns a small business but we were unable to afford any type of coverage and we had a child with asthma that they just flat turned down. Luckily we now have health ins through an employer but MANY are not so lucky.

[OnionPatch]

17. I don't want to pay for your wars, either. Suck it up.

If we can donate our tax dollars for your wars that we oppose, then you will have to donate your tax dollars to some of our causes. I might add that your donation to help people get health-care is a drop in the bucket compared to my donation to help you kill people.

[truedelphi]

45. You've said it. n/t

[jpak]

23. Then don't accept Medicare when you retire.

n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

25. Then enjoy the continuous outbreaks of disease.

Poor people may get sick more often, but they don't necessarily contain their misery. If your sense of humanity is deficit, then think about the possible consequences of being short-sighted.

[petersjo02]

26. I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for the wars in Iraq/Afgan.

But the fact of the matter is, once we pay our taxes, we no longer have much control over what the money is spent for, other than to keep in touch with our own senators and reps. Anti-choicers say the same thing about their tax dollars going for abortion or birth control but then fight tooth and nail to stop our own "born," living, breathing citizens who have no health care/insurance from getting access to it. So much for "right to life." Once they're born and draw breath, especially if they're "foreign" and have a little darker skin, the right could care less what happens to those fetuses.

[hfojvt]

29. moat of those people who won't work

are already covered by medicaid and disability insurance.

[FatDave]

31. From my experience, it seems like at least half of the IT industry is paid 10-99.

That is as an independent contractor. No benefits, no SSI matching. I paid $600 a month for coverage that covered nothing preventative or routine. Pretty much broken arm coverage. The silver lining to the collapse of 2008 is that now I'm poor enough my kids qualify medicaid.

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[shadowknows69]

33. I don't want them getting the SSI money I've paid in over the years when they retire.

Because thanks to their philosophy I probably won't be around to use it.

[doc03]

36. Me being a white guy in a redneck community I know

what that is meant to imply. They mean people on welfare and when you say people on welfare that means blacks to them. That's what they are saying, I hear it everyday and some just outright say
n----s on welfare.

[raccoon]

86. I believe most of the time that's how these people think. WIsh I could rec your post. nt

[FunkyLeprechaun]

38. My friend on FB

Says exactly the same thing. It's really irritating when I do point out the problems with his argument he basically says that he doesn't want HIS money to pay for other people's health care.

(Funnily, he is planning on moving to a country that has UHC!)

[Lorien]

44. Did you tell him that you don't like YOUR money to pay for killing people

in the Middle east? I wonder what his response would have been, given that mass murder and occupation is costing us many times more than universal health care would...and for what?

[kctim]

62. His response would be

"To raise and support armies" is in the US Constitution and govt providing healthcare is not.

[Lorien]

67. But "Providing for the general welfare" IS in the Constitution, while waging

war for corporate profits is not.

[kctim]

91. The retort to that is

PROVIDE for the common defense, PROMOTE the general welfare, and its in the preamble.

[Lorien]

104. Defense, but not illegal offense.

The teabagger types always confuse the former and ignore the latter.

[kctim]

106. I totally agree

and alot of things would be better IF they cared about that part as much as they do about the other part.

[Bozita]

39. One family in five now houses an unemployed worker.

Heard on McLaughlin Group this morning.

[SOS]

40. These nitwits are now paying 3% of their income towards Medicare

They should be in favor of abolishing Medicare too, as that is tax on them which covers "people who don't work."

But then they would be responsible for the medical insurance and care of their elderly parents.
Their "anti-socialism" would go out the window in about a minute.

[MadMaddie]

41. Don't forget those that are employed but their employer

only offers enough hours (30) so they don't qualify for healthcare or the employer doesn't offer healthcare benefits at all.

That is the big secret the Repugs try to keep quit. At the New Orleans free medical clinic, there was a male nurse who gets below the needed hours to qualify for health care coverage so he had to take on another job to make ends meet....even between the two jobs no health care coverage. Apparantly his blood presure was through the roof and he was in dire need of care.

This is a story of the working poor and the working without health care coverage.

[CrispyQ]

42. ...

[Dangerously Amused]

64. Love it!

[Lorien]

43. Ask them what they thought about Terri Schivo

hell, she hadn't worked in years, yet they were desperate to keep her alive no matter how much it cost.

[krispos42]

46. Yeah, those damn infants and frail elderly retirees should get a damn job!

How dare they sit around sucking off of society!

[Fumesucker]

47. What "health care reform"?

What we are getting is "health *insurance* reform" and I'm not yet sure there is much "reform" involved.

[LaydeeBug]

48. Well *I* don't wanna see US Policy catered to some asshole's sense of SPITE.

:banghead:

[quaker bill]

49. The economy is intentionally managed

so that some of us will always be unemployed. This is quite literally done on purpose. In times quite diffrent than now, the economy approaches "full employment", which is typically defined as an unemployment rate in the roughly 4 to 5 percent range. At this point, the "inflation hawks" come out at the Federal Reserve and Treasury to reduce the "money supply" by raising interest rates, to "cool the economy".

The concern is that if the unemployment rate gets "too low", there will be competition for labor that will drive wages higher. This can result in "cost push" inflation where prices rise to cover increased labor costs from higher wages and benefits. That the Fed and Treasury have been quite effective at controlling inflation at low levels since the Carter Administration is likely a significant factor for the observed stagnation of middle class and declining working class wages.

The result is that if things go as planned, some of us "don't work" by design to defeat inflation for the rest of us. I am not sure that this is a great service to all, but I am sure that it is in part the intentional effect of policy intended to benefit the investor class. Most importantly it is the intentional effect of policy, enacted on our behalf, that some of us are always unemployed. As it has been decided that keeping some of us unemployed is an essential social good, it only seems minimally humane that we see to it that these few are fed and cared for.

[DailyGrind51]

50. Maybe they are too sick to get hired?

[Vinca]

51. Exactly. I need health insurance and if I didn't work for myself,

I wouldn't have a job. No one is going to hire a 60 year old woman who hobbles around (arthritis and joint degeneration) and needs a nap in the afternoon. What's their excuse for the self-employed being undeserving of access to health care?

[DailyGrind51]

94. I had the same problem when I was an independent contractor!

I couldn't get private insurance coverage because I "committed the crime" of being successfully treated for cancer 20 years before.

[Gman2]

52. They want us to die quickly. Thru attrition, they want to select for

teabagger traits. A few decades, they can rid our genepool of those sponges. We are overpopulated anyway.

[raccoon]

53. NOT ALL EMPLOYERS OFFER HEALTH INSURANCE. These dumbasses

must have their heads up their asses if they don't know that.

I work for a STATE AGENCY and 50% of the employees are part-time, no benes, that means no health insurance.

These Tea bagger dips need to get a fucking clue.

[Shagbark Hickory]

54. They already are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These folks are so dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Why do they think their rates keep going up?

Oh... that's right... they don't have insurance either.

[RubyDuby in GA]

55. "I don't want to pay for a war that I've been opposed to before troops were on the ground"

"I'd rather have my tax dollars work to inproving people's lives rather than destroying them."


That's usually my response to crap like that.

[Echo In Light]

56. Shame that sentiment isn't more common within mainstream thinking/discourse

[Romulox]

57. Insurance companies have the *RIGHT* to be greedy, but policy holders should be altruistic?

Have you really considered the logic of what you're posting? How in the world can our government promote greed (i.e. the profit motive) as a "uniquely American" attribute as to the insurers, but blanch when individuals display that self-same characteristic?

:eyes:

[guitar man]

58. I swear to the FSM

I heard these exact words come out of the mouth of a teabagging idiot, my brother's sister in law. This woman lives on government disability and has not worked a day in over 10 years. She sits all day and absorbs every vile word that Hanny, Limbaugh and Beck utter all day. I was literally beside myself when I heard those words come from her yap. My only question back to her was "so who should pay for yours?"

she responded with a blank stare :banghead:

[LibDemAlways]

59. Maybe they'd think differently if an uninsured person who

couldn't afford treatment infected them with tb or some other disease. It's in the public interest to provide basic health care services to everybody. Germs don't give a shit whether or not you have insurance.

[ckimmy57]

74. Good one

to think about :thumbsup:

[treestar]

76. Good point

selfish jerks don't even know their own interest.

[h9socialist]

60. The Protestant Work Ethic is the nastiest fraud ever to curse civilization!

The notion of capitalism as a meritocracy of work is laughable in the first place. In the second place it's just a means of driving wedges between the "have-nots." This has long been the battle-cry of the petty bourgeoisie, protection for the ruling portions of the capitalist class, and a major fraud from the get-go. It is especially damaging in the area of healthcare -- because diseases tend not to honor human class distinctions -- and because denying health care to any one on account of economic status is immoral.

[laughingliberal]

61. Yes, another reason Australians are known to remark...

Thank God we got the convicts and they got the Puritans.

[treestar]

78. So true

We live to work rather than work to live.

Or at least claim that to be hire-able. I always love those how-to handle job interview articles. You're supposed to be dying to make the target company more money and know all about it and care about it more than just making a living.

[conscious evolution]

63. Monotheism is the biggest fraud

Without monotheism there would be no puritan work ethic.

[h9socialist]

80. But how would polytheism help?

I left out other alternatives in the question above, because you specifically referred to monotheism. Wouldn't religion in general be more deservingf of your indictment????

[conscious evolution]

85. Monotheism creates

a hierarchal structure where someone has to be at the top and creates conditions where others are trying to claw there way to the top.Sort of a king of the hill attitude,so to speak.It creates a 'I got mine and to hell with you' mindset for those at the upper levels.

[h9socialist]

87. You are describing CAPITALISM!

. . . and class society in general. The ancient Egyptians were NOT monotheists -- yet they were oppressive, slave-holding and hierarchical. The earlu Christians were monotheistic, yet the early Christian communities were essentially an experiment in "primitive communism." They did not develop rigid and sexist hierarchies until co-opted by the Romans under Constantine (such hierarchies made Christianity more "Roman" -- in 300AD Rome was hierarchical, sexist and polytheistic.

Besides, like Marx I tend to think that religions emanate from hierarchies in order to confer legitimacy on those hierarchies. It matters not whether it's monotheistic, pantheistic or polytheistic. To that extent I would agree with your proposition if you indicted religion-in-general, but I see no point in singling out monotheism as being the villain, anymore than polytheism.

[h9socialist]

81. But how would polytheism help?

I left out other alternatives in the question above, because you specifically referred to monotheism. Wouldn't religion in general be more deservingf of your indictment????

[tonysam]

84. The myth of Horatio Alger is even worse n/t

[h9socialist]

90. But Horatio Alger would not be possible without the Protestant work ethic!

H. Alger is the poster child for the Protestant Work Ethic!!!!! He wouldn't be a fraud, if the protestant work ethic hadn't preceded him in fraudulence. AND DAMN I'D LOVE TO SEE THE LOOK ON GLENN BECK'S FACE IF HE READ THIS THREAD.

[HughMoran]

65. Yep

Love your signature BTW...

[mudplanet]

66. Uninversal health care isn't just for those "hit by disaster"

it's also for:

the millions of people in jobs that don't provide insurance

the millions of people too old or infirm to work

because, as a human being, I care about my fellows

[The Backlash Cometh]

68. So much for being a Christian nation.

[Taitertots]

71. Neither do I

Lets have Universal Single payer. The economic boast from a functional health care system will put some of the people back to work. A progressive income tax, ending wars, and effective banking regulations will put the rest back.

I don't want to have to pay for people who don't work, but I do already and will unavoidably be made bare the cost. So lets have an effective system to minimize costs and increase service, Universal Single Payer. While fixing the real problem which is that people are out of work, Progressive tax system, banking regulation, and expensive wars.

I always wonder what is wrong with these people. They WANT to pay more for worse service, just to satisfy an arbitrary ideological fantasy.

[bridgit]

73. I feel the same way about having to fill potholes in front of tea-bagged houses

[tilsammans]

77. They don't/won't "get" the connection.

Many jobs dried up because employers couldn't afford to pay for health insurance.

And a lot of people employed by those firms got canned and consequently have have no insurance.

And there are few jobs for them at the moment.

:rant:

[Guilded Lilly]

82. I've heard that very line from people...

you would expect to know better.

It's a shallow, greedy-spirited argument. It came from two people who had "outside" paying jobs.

One ran a small business and was, to say the least, very thrifty when it came to offering benefits to his workers. Small office, handful of workers, annie's attic warehouse type of workplace with very few perks and almost Scrooge-like attitudes towards those perks. His office generosity was...almost non-existant while he made quite a comfortable living. As if HIS work time was more valuable than the warehouse fellow being paid peanuts.

The other ranted that she put in an eight hour day, nine months a year and resented the women who *got to* stay home and have/raise children. I pointed out that a "Mom" worked 24/7 including all summers...did that count for *work* worthy of insurance?

Then there are those of us who have tackled owning our own very small singular businesses. Smaller even than a Mom and Pop, where every penny was put back into the business. No corporation backing us. No big paychecks. Not worthy? right.

Sometimes, little people doing what they think are big things tend to equate contributions to society with the size or existance of a company paycheck. It's an ugly way to go through life.

A very revered corporation in this country (think audience participation Village People songs you hear at every wedding!) hires hundreds of part-timers so that they can avoid paying out any insurance or benefits, then give them work hours just shy of the minimum required for workman's comp, and pay them an hourly wage just over the current minimum.

What it comes down to is that there are people with generous spirits, and there are people with little, hard souls.

Any one of us could be tossed into a devastating life situation that requires an outpouring of simple kindness to survive. It isn't BEING a bleeding heart, it is HAVING a heart.

peace,
Lilly

[Deep13]

83. My mother told me that.

I pointed out that she herself is unemployed and that I had no coverage beginning in law school right through my first full time lawyer job.

[libertypirate]

88. You are exactly right! I've heard that argument over and over

And yes, they are fuckwits!

[PatSeg]

89. How sad

These people don't realize that unless they're super wealthy, they are as vulnerable as anyone else. Of course, if THEY lose their jobs or health insurance, they will be the first scream about the injustice and expect the government to help them out. They are entitled.

Sadly, they don't realize that empathy is a two-way street and most of them will never see the big picture.

[mscuedawg]

97. THEY ALREADY DO!!!!

Where do they think that uninsured costs get paid from??????

[EmeraldCityGrl]

99. I'm willing to bet most of the teabaggers are already insured by the government.

I would love to see the bios on those that are capable of denying their fellow country men the same
basic care they already enjoy.

[kenny blankenship]

102. You know what the real danger is? People who're not quite poor but by no means rich

getting the crazy idea that the healthcare reform will be taxing them to pay for poorer people's healthcare without lowering their bill at all - or more than making up the difference by higher taxes on them.
THAT differential benefit or perception of differential benefit is a recipe for backlash and slaughter at the polls.

The bottom line is that our goal should have been set this way: we need to cut - not slow the growth - CUT our current overall spending on health care by at least ONE THIRD, and ideally by one half. OTHER COUNTRIES DO IT. Other countries cover everybody for HALF of what we pay per capita and they live longer on average.

Of course to actually do that you can't leave the insurance racketeers in the middle scooping up profits for doing nothing but denying care. So of course that's off the table. That's a non-starter. Do whatever and be damned then.

[nickinSTL]

103. they can all f'ing go to hell

my wife is essentially unemployed - she won't appear in the 10% figure because she's been un-or under-employed for 8 years.

She has 10 years of experience as a computer programmer, and she can't get shit. She can't get hired by the local supermarket, nothing.

She works "as needed" for a local electrician...who hasn't needed her for months.

She works her ass off when she gets a chance - which is rarely.

Give her a f'ing job or shut the fuck up. assholes.

[Odin2005]

105. They are selfish assholes.

And "poor" is often a euphemism for "not-white".