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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:04 PM
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"We'll quit!"
"We'll quit!"

That's what we heard when the bankers were denied their undeserved bonuses.

Now it's what we're hearing doctors will do en masse in response to health care reform.

Well, do it already. Follow your beloved Sarah and quit.

March your greedy asses and your well worn copies of Atlas Shrugged off to your "Galt's Gulch".

March there, sulk and wait for us to beg you all to come back.

Just don't hold your breath.

Or better yet, do.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:07 PM
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1. Are doctors really saying that "en masse"? I'm thinking it's those who
are actually the shills of the insurance industry (whether they know it or not). For some reason, I actually think a lot of doctors welcome this reform -- we just hear about the others.

FWIW, my dad was a doctor and he would have been livid at the insurance companies telling him on whom he could or could not operate. I can safely say that he was one would be STRONGLY in favor of reform. And he'd set his patients straight, too. :7
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:10 PM
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3. Supposedly, according to the GOP. I don't believe it for a moment, however.
They won't quit, just as the bankers didn't quit when their bonuses were taken away.

These jackasses have such an overinflated view of their own importance and I am tiring of their childish bluffs.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:20 PM
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7. Yeah, I think it's "their" take on it (lies) -- like they keep saying Americans
don't want health care reform! :eyes:
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:49 PM
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10. What bonuses was that we took away? The pennies they threw back for their trillions? (n/t)
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:47 PM
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9. What reform ? You mean how big a pot of gold for Ins/Pharm we're haggling over? n/t
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 09:47 PM by bread_and_roses
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:08 PM
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2. The only docs who oppose reform are maybe the high-priced specialists.
Most family practitioners I've spoken to just want to be able to treat people without insurance hassles.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:12 PM
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4. I'll be graduating medical school next year.
I ain't quiting. In fact I am thrilled at the prospect of actually being able to give patients the care they need.

But this is the threat the GOP keeps lobbing every time Dems threaten to remove a group of their privileges.

I think the time has come for them to put up or shut up.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:14 PM
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5. The problem is that the pukes will do neither
They won't put up nor will they shut up.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:17 PM
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6. I'm a psychologist. I gave up most of my clinical practice years ago,
mostly doing criminal forensic work these days, largely to escape the entanglements of health insurance. I'd probably do more clinical work if I could be free to just practice without interference.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:39 PM
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8. Agreed, but I think some docs will quit
but they're the mostly old, conservative old farts who love their kickbacks and are fine with denying patients what they need because they have a lot of health insurance stock.

They're close to retirement age and they think they've got nothing to lose.

In my years of nursing practice, I met such docs. Their numbers aren't that high and they won't be missed all that much.

Most docs are caring and most docs are smart enough to know reform is inevitable and welcome it.

After all, there are far easier ways to make that good a living.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 10:10 PM
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11. My doctor won't be quitting...
He's in a not so decent area, in a 60 year old building, and I think the waiting room furniture is that old too. :)

He did a survey a few years ago to see how far his patients would be willing to travel if he relocated his office. When he found out that many of his lower income and senior citizens relied on the city bus to get them there, he abandoned his plans to move.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 10:12 PM
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12. my doctor supports single-payer....and so do most that i'm aware of...
i hadn't heard about the quitting thing- are they threatening to quit over the lack of even a decent public option? :shrug:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 11:28 PM
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13. Just another GOP myth.
Just like the myth that all the bankers would leave Wall Street if executive pay was capped.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:58 AM
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17. My doctor quit because he was sick of the insurance companies
and became a supporter of single payer. He did go back to work part time, but also joined Physicians for a National Health Plan.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:27 AM
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19. And that would be the real story!
Edited on Sun Nov-22-09 11:28 AM by lonestarnot
And on edit, nobody covers that.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 11:56 PM
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14. Thats one way to get rid of dead wood.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:02 AM
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15. Even the AMA, usually obstructionists in this, aren't saying that.
I would guess it's a very small cadre of doctors who own for profit medical businesses that are spreading rumors. Where would those doctors go? They would have to go practice in countries who have real national health care.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:12 AM
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16. Fine, quit then
My granddaddy told me years ago there was "no such thing as an irreplaceable man"







then he fired my ass :rofl:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 01:01 AM
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18. Dig that - any doctor who'd quit over this isn't a real doctor anyway
They're a corporate whore who should seek employment on Wall St. I don't want shit-for-brains like this as doctors.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:30 AM
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20. Huge K&R.
Sums up my feelings perfectly.

If these types all quit, it will open up jobs and opportunities for those who want to go into these professions for the *right* reasons instead of greed. I say it's win-win. Quit to your heart's content, and don't trip over your Ayn Rand collections on your way out.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:20 PM
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21. K&R
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