Ten tremendious lies

[Cyrano]

“Trust me.” -- When you hear those two words, be on your guard, and maybe even run.

“And this comes with a lifetime guarantee.” -- How many companies last that long?

“I want to spend the rest of my life with you.” -- Almost fifty percent of marriages end in divorce.

“… and I swear to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” -- When has this ever been enforced against domestic enemies? (And they are perhaps our most dangerous enemies.)

“God is an American.” -- Give me a fucking break.

“America is a Christian country.” -- So if you’re not a Christian, why don’t you just go away or kill yourself?

“Democrats are socialists.” -- My problem with that is, too many aren’t.

“America is the freest country in the history of the world.” -- If only it were so.

“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” -- But what if they have bad breath?

(Warning, the next one is obscene.)

“I promise I won’t come in your mouth.” -- Okay, but when talking about lies, how could I possibly have left this one out? It's perhaps the most often told lie in the world.

Please feel free to add to this list.

[RKP5637]

1. "Equality for all." n/t

[Cyrano]

2. Exactly. Except for some.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. "All we need to do is ... "

Usually with an invocation of Political Will and/or Testicular Fortitude.

--d!

[vadawg]

4. disagree with this one Keep your friends close and your enemies closer

its always a good idea to know exactly what your enemies are doing, and where they are relative to you. knowing what they are thinking could save your life...

[jonnyblitz]

35. that's the excuse apologists use when a president surrounds

himself with complete SLIMEBALLS and assholes. I disagree with your disagreement. I think it a bit foolish to "learn what they are up to" by hiring them to keep on fucking up what they fucked up before.

[RKP5637]

5. "Made in the USA." But in fact components made in China, marketed in the USA and possibly

assembled in the USA, but components made in China or any cheap labor outsourced location.

[Brickbat]

17. Eh, not so much

if you know where to look.

[RKP5637]

30. Good Point! I'm going to do more searching on the internet for USA made listings

of stuff. I wish we could get back someday to the quality of products we used to have USA made.

[Brickbat]

31. They're out there....

It's hard, but worth it, I think.

[NC_Nurse]

6. Tax cuts will create jobs and improve the economy.

Total bullshit.

[Mopar151]

7. I'll call you right back!

Sure, we have it in stock.

This miracle widget will increase you're gas mileage 25%.

It's tight and right, and we only want to sell it 'cuz we need the space!

They made a lot of different ones that year, you'll have to bring it in so we can match it up. (A bunch of us junkyard hangarounds were instructed to tell any customer this that we did'nt have a good answer for. The strangest part was how often it worked out for the customer! Probably why my old Ford truck has a radiator from a Chrysler Newport...runs cool always with a Linclon clutch fan.)

Highest prices paid!

[patrice]

8. "They're fighting and dying for our Freedom."

The opposite is true. The Soldiers and the People are War Slaves.

Everything about our lives is less, everything is handicapped, everything is oppressed by the MIC.

[vadawg]

10. -10000000

[patrice]

11. I'm sorry if that offends you. I was referring primarily to Viet Nam, Iraq, & Afghanistan.

[patrice]

12. Do you think it appropriate that our nation spend almost 50% of revenues on MIC while, at the same

time, offering a standard of living for the Enlisted that leaves quite a bit to be desired?

[vadawg]

13. yet you feel okay with denigrating their service, i guess they must not be as enlightened as you..

to realise that they are just war slaves....

[patrice]

15. Point out where I "denigrated" their service. That is YOUR assumption, not mine.

I said they are being USED for purposes that are not what they think they are.

And yet, technically, what does it matter what they think the purpose is; theirs is to obey without question.

[patrice]

19. I am angry that they have been and are being LIED to about it.

http://www.correctionsone.com/corrections/articles/1967983-US-could-release-up-to-700-detainees-in-Afghanistan

Brig Gen Martins says that 80% of the "Taliban" are not ideologues who hate the U.S. They are the Poor looking for work. They are being paid about $5.00 a day. So what we have here is our Poor fighting the Afghani Poor.

[patrice]

21. P.S. We = me too. Do you deny that this War was a foregone conclusion since at least 1997?

[patrice]

25. P.P.S. That which has Real Honor cannot be denigrated, no matter what errors others may make aboutit

[Ikonoklast]

38. That is a right-wing talking point, 'denigrating their service'.

Criticism was against what the military is actually being used for, i.e., promoting the interests of the oil and gas lobby.

The actual people involved are fulfilling their oaths, and following orders. They have no say in the matter; they are to do as told.


They are not fighting for our freedom. If you actually believe that, you have fallen for the simplistic jingoism that is currently disguised as patriotism.

If there was no oil in Iraq, we wouldn't be there. If there was no gas pipeline that needed built in Afghanistan, we wouldn't be there, either.

There is a valid reason Cheney fights with every resource available to keep his meeting with the oil and gas men a 'state secret'.

And remember this fact: the United States military is the largest, single user of refined petroleum products on the planet Earth. They have a vested interest to keep access to that resource, in order to survive as an organization.

The U.S. DoD uses approximately the same amount of oil, on a daily basis, as the entire country of Greece uses, on a daily basis.

[Aragorn]

43. u r right

but some will not c

[patrice]

14. In Iraq & Afghanistan, have the size of the conflicts, the trajectory of events, and the financial

burden on present day and future Americans not been fundamentally inflated by the use of private contractors and mercenaries?

If I were to yield some necessity to Freedom in these Wars, you might admit that that mission was seriously perverted by the profit motive and, thus, Enslaved us more than it had anything to do with our "Freedom".

[patrice]

9. Saving fetuses, in and of itself, is Pro-Life.

[Cyrano]

34. Hijacked any threads lately, patrice?

[patrice]

45. Hey, we were talking about Lies and that IS what the OP is about.

Let me see now, op DID say feel free to add to the list.

Do you disagree that "Pro-Life" is a lie? How so?

[patrice]

52. I am waiting to hear your reasons for why "Pro-Life" is not a Lie.

I should probably stop waiting, because I have been put on Ignore. Someone can't handle it.

Too bad, I would have enjoyed that discussion.

[Brickbat]

16. "I'm so drunk!"

That, and "I'm so wacky" generally just mean "I'm an ass and can't be bothered to police my own behavior right now." And "I'm so drunk!" often also means "I've had three beers and feel a little horny, so if we have sex tonight we can pretend we were drunk in the morning!"

[dysfunctional press]

18. number five should be shortened to simply "god is."

[mopinko]

20. i'll be back!

hear it at art fairs all day long.

[Odin2005]

22. "Atheists can't be moral"

"Rape victims were asking for it"

"Autistics don't have Empathy"

"Vaccines cause Autism"

"Artificial is Bad and Natural is Good"

"Technology is incompatible with Green living"

"GMOs are dangerous"

"Nuclear Energy is unsafe"

"Wacko Republicans are all mentally ill"

"Feminists hate men"

"Liberals with people are not responsible for their actions"

"Liberals use welfare to bribe black people to vote for them"

[patrice]

24. Those who oppose War denigrate Service.

[Cyrano]

39. You know, I'm beginning to understand the answer to the book titled

"What's The Matter With Kansas."

[patrice]

48. Please tell me more about that. I really want to know what you think.

[patrice]

53. Hello? Hello? . . . . Darn! . . . crickets.Too bad!

[vadawg]

23. biggest lie ever, "shes not exactly pretty but she has a great personality"

how many guys over the years have heard this one...

[HughBeaumont]

50. Yeah. That was heard by me throughout HS.

And then what follows is "You're just all about LOOKS, aren't you?"

OK, so . . . what's the message here, "Be dishonest"?

Back then, people just didn't seem to get if a person just isn't physically attracted to someone else, that doesn't necessarily mean anyone's at FAULT here. That's just the way it is.

[patrice]

51. Do you have any idea how sexist that comment is?

And believe me, you can count on one hand the number of times i have made accusations of sexism in my entire life.

If you dislike what you perceive as prejudice and lack of understanding, I suggest that you refrain from demonstrations of same.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

26. "For God so Loved The World*.."

* Anglo-Saxon Straight White Protestants.

No others need apply.

[liberal_at_heart]

27. "I'm going to be honest"

If you are telling the truth why would you even need to preface your statment with I'm going to be honest?

[noamnety]

28. #2 on your list ...

My dad is concerned that his new pacemaker has a "lifetime guarantee."

[and-justice-for-all]

29. "America is gawds bestest country!!"

[lonestarnot]

32. Prolifers are prolife.

:crazy:

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[Naturyl]

36. Military service is a selfless sacrifice.

No, it isn't. Look, I don't deny there are a lot of military people who genuinely want to serve their country, and that's great. However, that does NOT make service selfless. You show me somebody who is refusing the paycheck, the health care, and the GI Bill and I'll concede it is "selfless" service. I'm not suggesting anyone should do that, just saying that to call military service "selfless" abuses the English language and amounts to propaganda.

[Cyrano]

37. Having been in the military many moons ago, let me say this

Of course there are benefits given to those in the service and to veterans.

But let me ask you this. What's the chances you'll end up dead when you go to work? Infinitesimal for most people.

But it's an ever present reality when you put on that uniform. And if you don't call putting your life on the line daily a "selfless sacrifice," I don't know what is.

[Naturyl]

40. Fair enough, butlet me ask you this

Is working in a convenience store a selfless or heroic act? Your odds of being shot there are greater than your odds in most military activities, including active duty combat (in most cases).

[Cyrano]

42. I believe this interchange is going to end here

Being in Vietnam was not like working in a convenience store. Just be thankful every day of your life that you weren't there.

There are things most of us won't talk about to this day.

And although I should have just ended this with the previous sentence, you don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about.

Have a good life.

[Naturyl]

44. I wasn't talking about Vietnam. Should have clarified that.

I certainly understand things were on a different level in Vietnam, WWII, and earlier wars. I was referring primarily to certain assignments in Iraq during the most recent occupation.

Sorry I didn't clarify that. Vietnam must have been pure hell and I wasn't intending to deny that.

[patrice]

46. But what if many of us don't WANT you to "put your life" on the line?

You didn't ask us.

Imagine the same job without all of the gaurantees and absolute job security, like the rest of us live, would you "put your life on the line" then?

Pardon me, I am a veteran, never saw combat, but did train off and on for about 10 years in an air re-fueling group as an "electronic news gatherer", with all other branches. Most military never leave their desks.

[Bluenorthwest]

41. Dave Frishberg's 'Blizzard of Lies'

We must have lunch real soon. Your luggage is checked through.
We've got inflation licked. I'll get right back to you.
It's just a standard form. Tomorrow without fail.
Pleased to meet you. Thanks a lot. Your check is in the mail.
Marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
Marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
Your toes and knees aren't all you'll freeze
When you're in it up to your thighs.
It looks like snow, but you never know
When you're marooned in a blizzard of lies.
You may have won a prize. Won't wrinkle, shrink or peel.
Your secret's safe with me. This is a real good deal.
It's finger lickin' good. Strictly by the book.
What's fair is fair. I'll be right there. I am not a crook.
Marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
Marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
Better watch your step when your old dog Shep
Can't even look you in the eyes.
You're cold and lost and you're double crossed
When you're marooned in a blizzard of lies.
We'll send someone right out. Now this won't hurt a bit.
He's in a meeting now. The coat's a perfect fit.
It's strictly fresh today. Service with a smile.
I'll love you darling 'till I die. We'll keep your name on file.
Marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
Marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart.
And you're in for a big surprise.
When you're marooned, marooned, marooned
marooned, marooned, marooned,
marooned, marooned, marooned in a blizzard of lies.
A blizzard of lies.
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[HughBeaumont]

47. "Do what you love, the money will follow."

"If you work really, REALLY hard and stick it out, you will be rewarded and successful."

"No one is ever denied health care because of their inability to pay in this country."

"The economy is not a zero-sum game."

"It's simply not true that us Republicans don't care about 'The Little Guy'. How can you say that?"

"Can't help the wage earner by penalizing the wage payer."

"Can't strengthen the weak by weakening the STRONG."

[patrice]

49. That's a BIG one: Good work insures the life of an economic enterprise in perpetuity.