Subpoenoes issued for Rove and Miers reported on CSPAN3

[Blackhatjack]

this could get good.

[LSparkle]

1. YEAH, BABY -- YEAH!!!!

Under oath, WITH A TRANSCRIPT -- no compromise for these fuckers!

[Kikosexy2]

63. That's Right!...

let's roast the Pig boy and his wench....

[gollygee]

2. Yeah???

Keep us updated!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

[ORDagnabbit]

3. fight, fight, fight!!!!! go get em!!!!! n/t

[MUAD_DIB]

4. Shit YESSSSS!!!!!!!!

[malaise]

5. These are happy days

K & R!

[Blackhatjack]

6. IMHO this will be fought in the Courts ......

[zanne]

54. Of course it will...

But won't it be great?:bounce:

[FatDave]

60. In the courts they've stuffed?

No, that may not be so great. The court of public opinion, however, could get good.

[maddezmom]

7. I heard Schumer say they were thinking about it, but I missed the part

about being issued.

[MadJohnShaft]

14. I only heard him say they are thinking about it in his after hearing interview

[maddezmom]

18. I think we heard the same, but I had to leave the room for a bit

so wasn't sure if I missed anything. :)

[myrna minx]

8. Schumer just said that if the WH had and antenna left, they won't fight us.

The one this I can assure you of is that this isn't over.

[Marnieworld]

12. I heard him say it as I read this

I guess the stream is slower than TV.

He just rejected outright any privilege arguement.

"If the AG looks into his heart he'd march over to the WH and issue his resignation."

Damn!

[ClassWarrior]

9. Off to the Greatest Page, you beautiful lil thread...

:bounce:

NGU.

[H2O Man]

10. Gracious.

This is getting interesting.

[habitual]

11. NO WAY, what a day.....! n/t

[C_U_L8R]

13. Holy KKKrap !!!!

That's keeping the crooks knocked back on their heels.

No prisoners.

[Divernan]

15. Issuing subpoenas is not the same as SERVING subpoenas.

It's the last possible opportunity for a witness to "voluntarily" agree to produce documents and testify under oath. Let's hope the Committee follows through with this and actually serves these subpoenas within days.

[Blackhatjack]

19. I agree... until served they are mere bargaining chips

[youthere]

21. That was going to be my point. I'm not getting excited until they are served.

[GenDem]

16. Sweet -- happy days!!!

Love me some subpoenas in the afternoon.:bounce:

[Blackhatjack]

17. If I made a mistake, please correct me --but that is what was shown in writing on CSPAN3 post hearin

[maddezmom]

22. I missed it, but heard Schumer comment about it...and for all we know

after Leahy's closing comments they are being issued right now. I'm not doubting you're word, I just didn't see it as I had to leave the room for a bit.

another K&R :)

[Blackhatjack]

25. The key is that the committee had to vote to approve the subpoenoes

no other way they could be issued.

[maddezmom]

29. I thought they did that earlier

But I've had my inlaws here for a few weeks and might have missed something or be confusing 2 different incidnets.

[valerief]

20. More waterboarding. Whoopee! nt

[me b zola]

51. Gonzo wasn't waterboarded, he choked on his own spittle & lies

:)

I'll drink to more neocons doing more of the same! :toast:

[valerief]

53. You're right. You can lead a neocon to water but you can't make him choke.

He has to do that himself.
:headbang:

[lovuian]

23. Oh Ya Baby

:woohoo:

[hippiechick]

24. mmmmm popcorn!

:popcorn:

[Blackhatjack]

26. Tweety just read a list of Conservative Repubs want Gonzo to go...n/t

[Blackhatjack]

27. Wonder who will get a response from Rove to this breaking report?

[fryguy]

28. And the sun came out for the first time in days.....happy times!

[kimmerspixelated]

30. And the Dems said, "Let there be light"

and low and behold, the SUn- poenas Just shined and shined!!!

[bananarepublican]

45. Man... it's been dark since the Supreme Court selection of Bush! n/t

[disndat]

70. Yes!!!

What a brilliant analogy! The sun came out of the clouds here in the East, yesterday as Gonzo was testifying. A literal and figurative breakthrough the clouds for us benighted, long-suffering DUers.

[thereismore]

31. Issued, not just approved? nt

[JTG of the PRB]

32. EEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allow me to repeat that sentiment...

EEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is DELIGHTFUL news!

[soulcore]

33. Link for comfirmation?

[Pryderi]

34. I can't find any confirmation of the subpoenas...

[SlowDownFast]

36. There isn't any.

I've been searching Google News and blogsites for confirmation of this since the OP.

Either the OP mis-heard or CSPAN misspoke of a subpoena issuance.

As far as I know there are 3 steps involved:

1. Approval

2. Issuance

3. Serving

Hoping...

[Blackhatjack]

39. I posted as soon as I read it printed on the screen at CSPAN3 post hearing....

I have not been able to find any independent confirmation either, and that is why I asked for people to let me know if I was in error.

However, I did read it on the tv screen. CSPAN3 is running the entire hearing again tonight after the Senate shuts down. Maybe someone will see what I saw on the replay.

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. OMG!!!! I wonder how long it'll take to get them to testify? The WH is planning to use the

Executive Privilege on those 2. Then what happens? What is Congresses recourse?

[The Wizard]

59. Court ruling

on Executive Privilege
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

[FatDave]

62. "criminal"

The Supreme Court does have the final voice in determining constitutional questions; no person, not even the President of the United States, is completely above law; and the president cannot use executive privilege as an excuse to withhold evidence that is 'demonstrably relevant in a criminal trial.'

The phrase "criminal trial" is what worries me.

[bdamomma]

37. get those SOB's now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[redacted]

38. Y_E_A_H_! Now we're rocking!

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[Blackhatjack]

40. I can only find confirmation that subpoenoes were 'approved' for Rove & Miers...

... nothing about issuance.

Sorry, if it turns out that they were only approved and not issued.

[Babel_17]

41. Yes, same here

I googled Subpoenas issued for Rove and Miers

and got links that go as far back as Friday, March 23, 2007.

For example, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/22/AR2007032200213_pf.html

Senate Panel Approves Subpoenas for 3 Top Bush Aides

By Paul Kane
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Friday, March 23, 2007; A04

Escalating a potential legal showdown with President Bush, a Senate committee yesterday approved three subpoenas to top administration officials, including White House adviser Karl Rove, demanding sworn testimony about what they knew of plans to fire eight U.S. attorneys.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, following similar action from a House Judiciary subcommittee Wednesday, issued subpoenas for the testimony of Rove, former White House counsel Harriet E. Miers and deputy White House counsel William Kelley. Each was mentioned in e-mails retrieved from the Justice Department regarding the planning to dismiss federal prosecutors.

Democrats rejected Bush's offer this week to have Rove and other advisers testify behind closed doors, not under oath and with no transcript of the meeting -- an offer administration officials called "extraordinarily generous." They said the move would give Congress information while protecting the president's ability to obtain unfettered advice without its public airing.

"What we're told we can get is nothing, nothing, nothing," said Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.). He said it is essential to hear from Rove: "I know he's the decider for the White House -- he's not the decider for the United States Senate."

Subpoenas will not be served to Rove and others until the committee determines there is no hope of reaching a voluntary accommodation with the White House. Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.), the committee's ranking Republican, predicted that Bush will stand firm against his aides' testifying under oath, creating a legal showdown that could take years to settle and leave the committee with no new information.

[AikidoSoul]

42. Approved... not issued. Please keep us posted. Damn....

it would have been worth celebrating with some fine wine...

You may want to see it so bad that your eyeballs made it so. Or somebody in the news gen room wanted to see it so bad that they couldn't resist posting it for a split second.

Anyway... I'll believe it when I see the links and confirmation.

[snappyturtle]

43. I bet you did see "issued" because after all

Raw Story reported days ago that the subpoenas were approved:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Schumer_Rove_Miers_subpoenas_authorized_ready_0328.html

Does it make sense C-Span would post up tonight something that is old news? Maybe I just want them on the stand, so to speak, so badly that I'm rationalizing!

[Just-plain-Kathy]

44. I hope they have a better memory then Gonzo...n/t

[progressoid]

46. Clicking on that recommend button feels great!

Simple pleasures

[Oilwellian]

47. Link to video

http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?CatCodePairs=,

in the afternoon video, at 2:21:40, it says subpoenas "authorized" for Rove & Miers. Schumer also said, the claim for executive privilege has never worked, and so far, it's only taken months for the courts to decide that, not years.

[Blackhatjack]

49. Interesting .... did you see any message AFTER the hearing concluded?

It is possible I read it wrong, but I posted as soon as I saw it. I cannot find any confirmation from another source.

[Oilwellian]

56. It's in the video

It was posted after the hearing when Schumer was talking to the press. It specifically said "authorized." That's why I posted a link to the video and gave the exact time frame.

[Blackhatjack]

57. I guess I could have mistaken 'authorized' for 'issued' since it was NOT 'approved'... thanks!

I have been wondering if I was the only one to 'imagine' this display on CSPAN3.

Thanks for clearing this up.

[orleans]

48. i saw that tonight when i started watching the gonzo rerun!

GOOD!

[thinkbridge]

50. today subpoenas, tomorrow indictments?

[The Backlash Cometh]

52. Oh, happy day!

[lonestarnot]

55. Hallelujah!

[IWantAChange]

58. Dems have to keep this in the news - just keep lifting the curtain

on the Chimp and his minions..............

[Old Smokey]

61. Excellent

[wicket]

64. K & R

:kick:

[Oilwellian]

65. Folks, there's a difference between "authorized" and "issued"

It was reported last week by Rawstory that the Senate Judiciary Committee "authorized" the subpoenas....the next step is to "issue" the subpoenas and that hasn't happened yet. Although, after yesterday, I suspect that may happen soon. :evilgrin:

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[BlooInBloo]

66. And NOTHING on the 3 news stations but VT.

[Marie26]

68. Issued or authorized? nt

[Auggie]

69. Nothing on MSM but Virginia Tech

[EVDebs]

71. READ THIS, spread the word, stay active !

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=711250&mesg_id=713704

[Blackhatjack]

72. Once 'issued' and 'served' I would expect Rove and Miers to Move the Court to Quash...

... on grounds that include 'executive privilege.'

This will drag out the time needed until the Court arrives at a decision as to whether Rove and Miers have to comply.

However, the sooner the subpoenoes are issued, the sooner there will be an eventual resolution of this issue. I don't see the White House budging on this since there is so much corruption which could be exposed, especially if Miers tells the truth under oath.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

73. They may be

waiting for Gonzo to 'go spend more time with his family' and issue them. Catch them in the chaos. :popcorn:

[wryter2000]

74. Awesome!

Utterly and totally awesome!

:woohoo: :loveya: <--Leahy

[Uncle Joe]

75. This can't be true, I don't see it on any of the mass corporate media's websites,

however, I did hear Alec Baldwin lost his temper with his daughter.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. I don't see this headlines in the New York Times?

why not?

(hardly anyone watches or listens to CSPAN)