Senate debate Health Reform Bill live on CSPAN2 now!

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http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_rm.aspx

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1. Sheldon Whitehouse is kickin ass of Repukes and Insurance cabal !

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2. blow by blow: Mary Landreau was scheduled to speak, Maria Cantwell (D) WA took her spot

while Landreau is recovering from being roughed up and read the riot act in the hallways by progressives. Doctors on call.


Cantwell talking about increase in premiums, insurance industry profits and what will happen if we do nothing. Unsustainable- the word of the day.

arguing for value of public option. provision for States able to negotiate for lower costs- Washingtion state experience: 30-40% cost reduced- Costco model

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3. "fee for service loop" Doctors paid on volume- cost spiral out of control

700 billion spent on unnecessary test, procedures, uncoordinated care, longer hospital stays etc...

what does legislation do? Changes way reimburse for health care. "Value not volume." Lower costs better results. Bill has outcome incentives.

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4. Dick Cheney wearing a pink shirt tries to shoot her in the face- wrestled to the ground by Kucinich

back to the debate.

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5. I predict there will be ONE holdout and the bill will be filibustered.

And it will be interesting to see what happens to that one holdout afterwards.

(They would certainly receive a cushy retirement from certain corporations.)

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7. OR, they will give them a sweetheart deal to vote for it- a bridge to somewhere.

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6. Mary Landreu speaking. Praising colleagues efforts.

recognizes Ron Wyden hard work. bi-partisan efforts. percentage of GDP 16% twice as much as any other industrialized nation.

so MARY are you going to vote for cloture or not?

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8. SHE'S VOTING FOR IT! to move ahead. one down.

heard from constituents- influenced her decision to vote. Clear to her doing nothing not an option, or waiting any longer to find other solutions.

reforms must be implemented carefully and properly. Small business told her these reforms needed- need costs lowered, simplicity, predictability. so they can focus on Creating jobs..

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10. ...

...:toast:

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9. She is voting for cloture...

...YAaaaaY! :patriot:

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11. current trajectory if we do nothing 60% of average household income in LA to health care

so 10% limit in bill is high, but nothing like the option of doing nothing.

She's giving the bill a strong endorsement.

still concerned about public option- shifting costs to taxpayers.

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12. responding to RW blogger recent chatter about Katrina assistance

LA per capita income abnormally inflated- made it seem like LA was like CT- state still poor. Not defensive about asking for support for state- (i'm assuming the RWer claimed she's voting for cloture because of support for state). not reason she is moving toward debate.

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13. here we go with the hysterics.... abortion...Sen. HATCH. ass.

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14. Abortion Abortion Abortion... blah blah blah...

wants stupak in senate bill- defeated in committee

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15. Brownback (R) provision " violates Hyde amendment"

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16. Sure wish Kennedy was still alive to keep his friend Hatch in check.

This debate about abortion is SO off the tracks. Republicans aren't voting for the bill anyway, so why debate it?

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17. The floor debate has devolved into a huge Repuke circle jerk on Abortion.

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18. making a big deal about the conscience clause. Obama said " under our plan

no federal funds used for abortion (keeping status quo) and conscience clause will reamain in place." pg 116-124 bill they say does not do this. says Obama broke his promise.

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19. now back to the bs about this bill being fiscally irresponsible..

Brownass, the 1% polling puke president candidate, representing their party.

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20. cloture vote scheduled for 8pm tonight.

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21. Johanns, Hatch, an Brownback sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G ass to "pro-lifers"

out of 41 votes to cloture - 40 went on to final approval. they are worrried, very worried.

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22. Johanns claims bill will "radically expand abortion" and pleading for one pro-life dem to vote

against cloture.

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23. Hatch's maudlin whining about abortion is making me

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24. the ONLY issue in the bill the pukes have talked about for the past HOUR is abortion! WTF!

pulling out moses and the bible and morality - Brownback "do we choice life or do we choice death" these assholes are sick.

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25. AL FRANKEN on now. back to sanity

praising bill, makes health insurance more available, avert unsustainable catastrophe for health care system and economy.

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26. 2000-07 premiums double, millions more uninsured, same period insurance company PROFITS rose 428%

all you need to know about why insurance co's are against bill.
bill will fundamentally change how health care works in this country.

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27. co's price gouging- tranparency in bill will show where money is spent

limits amount of money that goes to ins. co profit, advertising, overhead- 20% max.

in Minnesota 91% of premium goes to actual health care
other areas only 60% goes to health care.- we need to do better for the country

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28. Blanch Lincoln (D-AR) speaking now. Voting for cloture!

speaking about current lack of choice
now no objective info on treatment effectiveness

Millions of ads in AR bought by outside groups to influence her on debate and threaten her seat.

job to represent state and constituents. No easy fix. Build on what is working and not turn away from problems.

does not support robust public option- worried about taxpayer bailout of plan down the road. (yah RIGHT..)

wants market based exchange.

doesn't agree with everything in bill, but voting for Cloture to continue to debate issues!
trashing republicans for being obstructionists


responding to threats from left and right.

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29. Lincoln : "govt. spending rose by 55% under Bush"

wants to limit federal spending- pressing on value of non-profit exhanges. (of course the CBO scored the PO as saving money- so this is a weak argument)

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30. Lincolns vote for cloture gives us the magic 60 VOTES!