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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 07:09 AM
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Isn't it illegal for anyone to hold anti Commander-in-Chief rallys on a military base?
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 07:13 AM by Are_grits_groceries
Not only is she going to hold a book signing at Fort Bragg, she is also going to hold one at Fort Hood, Texas.

What is she doing on military bases in the first place? She is not in the military, she is an unemployed ex-gov. SHE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE ON THE BASE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/19/152039/56

She leads the Paliban.

Even if Palin doesn't say one word to a group of soldiers, her presence is still a tacit anti-Obama event.

She has never repudiated any of her campaign statements such as the one that said Obama was pallin' around with terrorists.

She has actively endorsed people like Glenn Beck who are rapidly ratcheting up the anti-Obama and anti-government rhetoric. They are on the edge if not over the line on what is allowable for public discourse.

She has issued statements that are in direct opposition to many of Obama's policies. That is her right. However, she has not called out any of the untrue and unjust personal attacks about him.

If she were signing books near the base, that would be one thing. On the base is quite another. I would like to know where the approval came from. I don't doubt that the hand of anti-Obama military officers are behind this.

BTW the media will be allowed to cover the event. This brouhaha just added to the publicity about the event. I have a whole collection of tinfoil hats for every occasion, and I wonder if this about face was planned.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 07:16 AM
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1. I don't know who planned it or how detailed it is.
But yes, I see it as a problem because of the movement she represents.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 07:34 AM
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2. Kicking for responses.
Why is she on our military bases hawking her book and with a dumbass press entourage following her? What is the purpose?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:15 AM
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3. Because the CO or Commander of the base allowed it.
There are so many neocon, right wing idiots in the military that they don't see a problems with pal'in around with Palin.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 01:48 AM
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4.  Make an example
of the commander by asking for his retirement,and the rest of those right wing clowns will toe the line,in other words do what they are paid to do,not politicize the military.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 04:57 AM
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5. it is completely inappropriate
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 06:06 AM
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6. Let's be real.
The army's a heavily Republican constituency and is sure to be more enthusiastic about Palin than the country as a whole.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 07:31 AM
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7. Illegal, but ONLY for a Unitarry Presidency!
n/t

pnorman
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votingupstart Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 09:17 AM
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8. most bases are open
that means that as long as you have a valid DL you can drive on base. If she is doing the book signing at the PX (base wal-mart) then she is OK, AAFES regularly invites authors to go to the stores and sign books, they also invite singers to come and play when they are trying to sell the CD's etc. If her publisher has made the normal arrangements then she is a vendor promoting a product being sold buy a company (AAFES is a company that only sells to certain government employees, technically not a part of the government)
i think this is why the Army came down with the rules surrounding her visits, they did not want to be seen as making any sort of political statement.

- unfortunately some people will view this sales tactic as a political endorsement -- JUST WHAT SHE WANTS.

- the sooner she gets left alone the sooner she will be gone -- QUIT FEEDING THE HYPE.
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 10:12 AM
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9. Absolutely
correct, plus, Ft. Bragg had a Corps Change of Command on this past Thursday. I doubt the new Corps Commander reversed the old COmmanders decision that quickly.....
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 06:30 AM
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15. I'm posting about it on DU.
I didn't realize this would be headline news in the MSM or even in blogworld.

It's the MSM and a lot of othe people feeding the hype. I may be offering a crumb at best, and I could stop mentioning her period. Do you think that would make an iota of difference?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 10:59 AM
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10. When liberal comedians join USO tours
we don't complain; we applaud them - even when a republican is in office.

This is not all that different from Al Franken going to bases to entertain the troops (except that he has a brain).
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 04:41 AM
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11. It's a little different.
Franken wasn't calling the president a terrorist, at least that I can remember. He also wasn't the poster boy for a movement that openly called for the assassination of the president or armed overthrow of the government. He also wasn't a big voice in a movement that was advocating states secede from the Union or rise in violent rebellion if they're not granted a fascist theocracy.
Other than that, yeah I guess it's the same.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 05:16 AM
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12. Agreed...
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 06:33 AM
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16. USO tours are not held on federal government property within the United States. n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 05:49 AM
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13. She has a right to express her opinions, however stupid they are.
Edited on Mon Nov-23-09 05:52 AM by LeftyMom
She also has the right to free association, so even though she associates with religious whackaloons, racist nutjobs, seccesionists and I can't keep track of who else, she still has the right to freedom of speech. Anyhow, she's doing a book signing, not holding an anti-Obama political rally (there's nothing stopping liberals from doing the same with their books, I'm sure some of them would do surprisingly well.) I'm sure she'll be told whatever special rules apply about political activity on base.

And of course civilians are allowed on bases- many of them work there or visit for various reasons, business or social. I used to go to movies and bowling on the AF base here with my best friend's family (her Dad was an ex-Navy guy working for the AF as a civilian) and that was totally okay.

EDIT: I CAN NOT FUCKING BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE MADE ME DEFEND SARAH GODDAMN PALIN. :eyes: Please think before you hyperventilate and post some ridiculous overreaction to a painfully dumb woman sitting at a card table signing ghostwritten books. If that's the best thing you have to worry about, life's pretty good.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 06:24 AM
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14. *sigh*
Sorry I made you defend Palin. BTW I'm not hyperventilating.

This is how we see her: 'to a painfully dumb woman sitting at a card table signing ghostwritten books.'

Unfortunately, that isn't how a lot of other people see her. I wish they did. If that was all that was to this, I could care less. I am wary of her and her ability to create situations that on the one hand seem like business as usual and on the other hand promote an anti-government agenda.

I do think contrary to popular belief. I don't ponder about her 24/7, but when she comes to my attention I don't write her off. People insist on denigrating and downplaying my thoughts about her.

Fine.... she's just Danielle Steele on a roll.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 06:45 AM
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17. How would wingnuts react if private citizen Al Gore pushed his book on U.S. Gov't property?
Right-wing heads would be exploding en masse. Tea-partying would give way to rock-throwing, screaming pithecanthropoid mobs.

True, Palin's a private citizen not holding any public office, or not running for any public office -- at the moment. BUT, there is no doubt from any quarter that she does not *intend* to become a dandidate for public office. This is cutting things very, very thin.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 07:15 AM
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18. Would we not laugh at them for being overreacting ninnies?
:shrug:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 07:34 AM
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19. 'Overeacting ninny' here
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