Do we pose a threat to the establishment?

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on edit: removed all remaining text...and re-worded the question. Whatchoo gonna do?

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To clarify, "we" means DUers.

Thanx to whoever asked.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

1. We think, therefore we are dangerous.

[vadawg]

2. if you mean DU, then i would have to say in general nope

sitting at home glaring at a computer screen, or marching and chanting on the street will never scare the establishment... thats what an armed citizenry does...

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3. Who are "we"? Liberals? DUers?

Please clarify.

But, whoever "we" are, I sure hope we are dangerous to the establishment!

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4. It is a poorly worded quetion. I dunno, I think there is a qestion here. I'm just not asking it well

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5. Sure, it's a good question. It would be a better question if you could be more specific.

I just voted "to some extent" because I think most people on DU think for themselves, and that itself is a threat to the establishment.

Get back to me when we storm the white house with pitchforks. :D

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7. You know what man

I'm afraid others with other agendas will storm the WH before we even think to hire a bus.

God, Democrats take a lot of shit.

And we just take it, by and by.

And you know, this isn't even about Democrats, though we seem to be the only ones who even recognize that much of the nation, people - us - really at the core have the same values. Repukes play so unfair.

[dschis]

6. We're part of the problem

We complain about the wrong things sometimes

[gateley]

8. To some extent, because I've heard several references to (paraphrasing) "the

Progressives in the blogosphere are unhappy with...". So even though we, as DU, don't send these guys scurrying, our voices are added to those of others and the powers that be are aware of how a segment of 'the base' feels about the issues.

[JDPriestly]

9. We are helpful to the establishment. The establishment likes to be comfortable.

Comfort makes a person, a society numb and unobservant. Those of us who criticize perform an important service -- keeping the establishment aware of pitfalls in the road ahead.

Stupid criticisms, of course, are not helpful. But the average DU contributor is relatively well educated, well informed, intelligent and caring. So our criticisms although sometimes harsh and perhaps difficult for the powers that be to stomach, are very helpful.

[Quantess]

11. Most of the criticism is done from the comfort of the glowing computer screen

next to a half-eaten bag of cheetos, for both sides of the political spectrum, but especially for the left, sorry to say. The right wingers have been summoned to a psychotic battlefield by the dog-whistle messages for violence against Obama. I sort of wish liberals could be that crazy and extreme.

However, I do believe that being well informed, and spreading information to others is important. In the old days, people had to make do with the Pony Express. We have the internet! There is hope. Just get the masses pissed off enough to do something about it.

[snagglepuss]

15. Well said. nt

[Liberation Angel]

10. If by "The Establishment" you mean Corporate Fascist Monopolies, then yes we do

Fascism is the name of the game.

By educating and supporting each other and providing a pool of info, diligent researchers and advocates and resources we pose a serious threat to the evils of the Fourth Reich and its operatives who are treasonous, soulless and lacking in basic humanity (not to mention the fact that they are bloodthirsty greedy necrophilics who glorify the power to inflict suffering and death and who worship mammon above all else)

Yeah - we are a threat to that...

[vadawg]

13. how exactly are you a threat, stuff that gets posted on sites such as DU dosent reach a tiny fractio

of the population, even amongst those who see it, half does unrecs, guarenteed one lobbyist with $1 million in his pocket is more powerful than all of DU put together. Sitting behind a computer is not what the establishment fears its you standing behind a barricade with a rifle in your hand...

[Quantess]

17. Sad, but oh, so true!

[Liberation Angel]

28. People with rifles get shot, VADAWG and they do not fear that: they WANT that

because it makes you an easier target and justifies them knocking you off..

The pen is mightier than the sword.

You can write a post here and thousands of people will see it, reflect on it, pass it along, learn from it, and within a few seconds a couple of hundred or even a thousand people will be exposed to words that they may never have considered before.

Like Twitter in Iran or Facebook in the marketplace, websites and technology have an impact.

And when the mass media picks up on ideas and concepts or learns from us at DU (Will Pitt, for example, or many of the others here who have a fairly wide following especially) or hen we join together to make our voices heard, we present a challenge and opposition to the status quo that is more mighty than any barricade or any idiot with a rifle.

You seem to be promoting violence and threats of violence and as a purported former law enforcement person you KNOW what that means here...

I am strictly for nonviolent means to challenge the establishment because there is simply no validity to violence as a means to improve the world...

Satyagraha yes, violence no.


And this site provides a medium for challenging the status quo in ways that make it dangerous to that status quo...

Believe me - if they could shut this site down they would --- instead they infiltrate, disrupt and dissemble...

[waiting for hope]

12. Oh good Gawd - like a bunch of anonymous

posters - keyboard warriors are going to change the opinions of the corporate controlled establishment in DC. Now, if there was some organization in terms of protests, marches and other forms of outrage that the media may notice, perhaps a few heads would be turned, but not enough to cause a crick in the neck.

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14. In what way are we not all a bunch of anonymous posters?

you get it

[Myrina]

26. +100. Best.Post.of.the.YEAR.

:applause:

[smalll]

16. Yes! Whenever any of us get 5 recs or more, and our OPs ascend to the "Greatest" page --

the powers that be tremble! TREMBLE, I tells ya!

;)

[Kaleva]

18. We are a threat to those who hate the 'unrec' and 'hide thread' features'

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19. You mock me.

That's going down on your permanent record...

[Kaleva]

20. I shall retaliate by unreccing and hiding all your threads!

Quiver in fear! LOL!

[pecwae]

21. Hardly. nt

[mmonk]

22. We must. They spend a lot of energy and money to try and discredit us.

[Cyrano]

23. First they stole the White House and we did nothing

Then they committed mass murder in Iraq and Afghanistan and we did nothing.

Then they left the people of New Orleans to drown and we did nothing.

Then they totally destroyed the American economy and we did nothing.

Now, they're being let off the hook for their crimes against humanity and we are still doing nothing.

"Do we pose a threat to the establishment?" I don't think so.

[Echo In Light]

25. You left out 9/11 - the same 'they' behind that, too (PNAC)

[Echo In Light]

24. No..at least not until Agent Mike tracks actual, real life organization against Big Bro's interests

[kentuck]

27. Of course not!

Skinner is a genius. :evilgrin:

[Liberation Angel]

29. Funny all these folks posting that DU doesn't matter

the whole point of DU is to be a threat to the right wing status quo.

And I believe we are...

[annabanana]

30. not if we waste our time navel-gazing. . .n/t