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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:29 AM
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Housing Recovery in U.S. Set Back to 2010 With Market on `Life Support'
U.S. Housing Recovery Delayed to 2010 as Market Wanes (Update1)
By Kathleen M. Howley and John Gittelsohn


Nov. 20 (Bloomberg) -- A recovery in U.S. housing will have to wait at least until next year.

The outlook for the home market dimmed this week as residential construction and mortgage applications fell and loan delinquencies reached a record.

“I don’t think the housing crisis is over,” Mark Zandi, chief economist with Moody’s Economy.com, said in a telephone interview. “I think we’re going to see another leg down.”

New home sales may begin to pick up by the start of the so-called spring selling season, said Toll Brothers Inc., the largest U.S. luxury homebuilder. Existing house sales may take longer. Residential construction and property sales led the way out of the previous seven recessions going back to 1960, said David Berson, chief economist of PMI Group, the mortgage insurer in Walnut Creek, California.

Mortgage applications for home purchases fell to a 12-year low last week and foreclosures rose to record highs in the third quarter, according to reports from the Mortgage Bankers Association.

An index measuring November homebuilder confidence came in lower than the median forecast of 45 economists this week. The Commerce Department on Nov. 18 said residential building dropped 11 percent in October to the lowest level since April’s all-time bottom. ..........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUSh9f1ytDTY&pos=2




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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:32 AM
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1. Treasuries are trading at a negative yield
There is no faith in the financial system right now. Investors are willing to take a negative yield vs. commercial paper or cash balances at the banks. People with money still view the counter-party risk as high.

TARP was a failure, a year later, people are still concerned with the health of the financial system.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:35 AM
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3. I agree with you.
I am putting my money in silver. That and food.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:39 AM
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4. Unless you have over 250,000
You can keep your cash in a bank. The FDIC will pay you your dollars.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:40 AM
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5. I do not trust the dollar anymore
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:42 AM
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7. Well the people with the big bucks are betting on the continued existence of the US government
So I think it is safe right now.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:47 AM
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9. For now yes, but
will the union hold? If things go as bad as they possibly can the US might breakup. A Russian professor wrote a paper on it las year I just can't remember his name. I hope not but I am putting money in silver as a store of wealth and because silver is onthe rise.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:48 AM
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12. If you are that concerned take physical hold of it
No sense buying silver stocks if you believe there is a collapse.

Everyone should have a store of 1 month of can goods regardless in the case of a national emergency. I have one.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:50 AM
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14. I am working up to 3 months of food.
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 10:51 AM by Craftsman
Both for emergencies and as a hedge against inflation I see next year.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:48 AM
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10. The dollar has declined in value for eight straight years now.
If you had used your dollars eight years ago to buy gold you would be happier than if you just kept that money in the insured bank/
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:49 AM
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13. I know
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:53 AM
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15. It has actually declined in value for 96 years now
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:42 AM
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6. I have been watching this since 2005 and my worst case is:
Mad Max without the benefit of petrol.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:44 AM
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8. Well there are enough guns in this country
If the government ever fell, we'd be Afghanistan pretty quickly.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:48 AM
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11. I know I live in TX
The new state motto: If You Ain't Packin' Your Slackin'
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:34 AM
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2. no jobs, no money being spent.
who can buy anything now?
jobs are in India and China and Mexico and Bangladesh and ....
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:55 AM
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16. Real Estate Market is busy in Mass.
Sorry it sucks in FL, AZ, NV, CA.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:03 AM
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17. PA isn't doing well
but we don't have sunbelt or western state problems. There is a plus to your state being part of the original union....you have less areas to build, thus less areas to inflate a housing bubble.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 02:29 PM
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18. My MIL is in Methuen
She is looking into selling her home 2 years ago she was told by a realtor she could get $275K now the same one will list it for $199K. That is why it is booming.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:51 PM
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20. I wouldn't say booming.
It is busy. The under $300K market is steady and the 1M+ is OK. If a home is priced right, it will sell. There are many examples like the one you posted.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 02:33 PM
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19. This is why the extension of the home buyers credit was essential to the economic recovery
When it looked like it would not be extended - home building tanked.
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