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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:20 AM
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Obama- Please Tell Me You're Joking
http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/obama-appoints-loyal-bushie-dana-peri

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gpxs-A7_KeHNXFlGtrDZ-QzIw-Fw

Obama taps former Bush aide to key government post
(AFP) – 1 day ago
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has tapped a former top aide of his predecessor George W. Bush to a key post on a board overseeing government-sponsored international broadcasting.
Dana Perino, the first Republican woman to serve as White House press secretary, was appointed late Wednesday to the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG).
"I'm honored by the president's announcement and I'm looking forward to serving on the bipartisan board, if I'm confirmed," Perino said.
She currently serves as chief issues counselor for the United States at international public relations firm Burson-Marsteller and as a contributor to the Fox News Channel, which has sparred with the Obama administration over the past several months.
Created in 1994, the BBG oversees all of the US government's non-military international broadcasting outlets, including Voice of America, Alhurra television, Radio Sawa, TV Marti, Radio Free Asia and Radio Free Europe.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:22 AM
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1. he had to appoint a republican, it is the rule of the panel.
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 10:23 AM by dionysus
everyone is jumping on this seemingly without knowing this fact.

now you can argue he should have appointed someone better, but these are republicans we're talking about. not much (or anything) to choose from if you're looking for someone with brains...
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:26 AM
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3. now that I know that fact...
can I still fucking jump?

she has proven herself, many times, to be full of shit
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:33 AM
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8. yes, you can, she is an idiot. then again they all are...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:26 AM
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4. +1 - thank you for that clarification
:D
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:29 AM
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5. clarify please
Are you saying that it would be against the law for him to appoint a politically unaffiliated independent to the post? That these posts are specifically reserved for members of the two parties, and the 40%+ of Americans who are not members of either party are not eligible?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:33 AM
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6. I don't know, that's what I read here on several threads on this topic.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:38 AM
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29. nope it's not against the law it's just tradition as Allenjake pointed out down-thread.
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 11:40 AM by unapatriciated
(b) Composition of Board
(1) The Board shall consist of 9 members, as follows:
(A) 8 voting members who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
(B) The Secretary of State who shall also be a voting member.
(2) The President shall appoint one member (other than the Secretary of State) as Chairman of the Board, subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.
(3) Exclusive of the Secretary of State, not more than 4 of the members of the Board appointed by the President shall be of the same political party.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec...

He could appoint an independent, green, hell a socialist if he wanted to.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:43 AM
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30. And I'm sure those greens and socialists would sail through the Senate
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:48 PM
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36. maybe not, I was just pointing out it was not the law.
There are other republicans he could have picked. Why Perino? Is he sending out an Olive Branch to Fox noise?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXzy2Lm6SaI

Obama's relationship with the right reminds me of my last marriage. Funny thing the harder I tried to do everything his way the more he found fault with me.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:40 PM
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35. link is broken
but thank you for the clarification.

So the bottom line is that he didn't need to appoint a Republican at all, never mind a member of the previous administration.

The evidence that the two-party system is really a one-party system continues to accumulate...
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:50 PM
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37. here is the link
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:33 AM
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:34 AM
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10. LOL. yes, i agree dole's mummy would be better...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:23 AM
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2. Yes, this is bad as the other side passing judgment
without knowing all the facts.

Malloy was having conniptions about it last night - and I thought, did he not read up about it?

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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:32 AM
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28. the fact is he did not have to appoint a republican.
The rules do not say that there has to be four Republicans, it states no more than 4 members "shall be of the same political party." He could have picked an independent or someone from the green party.

(b) Composition of Board
(1) The Board shall consist of 9 members, as follows:
(A) 8 voting members who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
(B) The Secretary of State who shall also be a voting member.
(2) The President shall appoint one member (other than the Secretary of State) as Chairman of the Board, subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.
(3) Exclusive of the Secretary of State, not more than 4 of the members of the Board appointed by the President shall be of the same political party.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec...

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:33 AM
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9. It is not that he is appointing a Republican - it is that he is appointing THIS republican.
After seeing her shovel one blatant lie after another out of the Bush Whitehouse it is clear she does not have the ethics to be entrusted with any position of influence.

If we are going to help the republicans regain any modicum of sanity we need to NOT appoint the Bushistas, but support the reality-based wing of their party (if it can be found).
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:35 AM
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11. yes, but off the top of my head i can't think of a single decent one
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:35 AM
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12. thanks for the unrec...
whoever you are

or is it whom?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:37 AM
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14. i'll rec it for you.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:39 AM
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17. I suggest EVERYONE unrec this thread
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 10:39 AM by LynneSin
Since the implication is that Obama picked a Republican over a democrat.

The position required that he pick from the other party ie, a republican. He was not allowed to choose from his own party.

Nuff said!
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:43 AM
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20. that's your interpretation...
Obama picks a lot of repugs

this thread is about the specific choice of Perino
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:36 AM
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13. ya didn't you read the rulez?! It was mandated that he pick Perino.
seriesly I read them
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:38 AM
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15. There is a tradition for appointments on these boards
Where the law requires a split of Republicans and Democrats. The Senate Minority Leader gets to pick the appointments of the party that does not control the White House. It isn't a law, just a tradition.

That being said, given Mitch and his Parties willingness to politicize the President's appointments, it might be a welcome shot across the bow for the President to tell Mitch to fuck himself on one or two of these picks.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:38 AM
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16. EARTH TO DU: OBAMA HAD TO PICK A REPUBLICAN
Nuff said.

I think there are enough replies that have the details as to why it was a republican but it is the requirement that it is of the opposite party.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:41 AM
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18. Is she the only republican?...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:42 AM
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19. They are all vile
it's nothing I'd get upset over if you ask me.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:43 AM
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21. but you're upset over this thread
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:00 AM
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26. I'm upset that people think Obama picked her over a democrat
that's all
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:47 AM
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32. not being allowed to pick a Democrat does not equal having to pick a republican.
(b) Composition of Board
(1) The Board shall consist of 9 members, as follows:
(A) 8 voting members who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
(B) The Secretary of State who shall also be a voting member.
(2) The President shall appoint one member (other than the Secretary of State) as Chairman of the Board, subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.
(3) Exclusive of the Secretary of State, not more than 4 of the members of the Board appointed by the President shall be of the same political party.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec...

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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:49 AM
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25. then why didn't he draw a name out of a hat?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:44 AM
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23. *Any* person he picked would generate outrage here.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:48 AM
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24. Then why didn't he pick a Republican, instead of a Bushite?
There must be a few of them left.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:28 AM
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27. That's simply not true.
The rules do not say that there has to be four Republicans, it states no more than 4 members "shall be of the same political party." He could have picked an independent or someone from the green party.

(b) Composition of Board
(1) The Board shall consist of 9 members, as follows:
(A) 8 voting members who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
(B) The Secretary of State who shall also be a voting member.
(2) The President shall appoint one member (other than the Secretary of State) as Chairman of the Board, subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.
(3) Exclusive of the Secretary of State, not more than 4 of the members of the Board appointed by the President shall be of the same political party.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00006203----000-.html

I think Valtin at kos has it right it's quid pro quo .

The Hill also reports that the appointment came at the urging of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky). What kind of quid pro quo is that about? I'm sure that Bush flack Perino will fit in just fine on the "bipartisan" panel. It's a good place for her, as these government sponsored broadcasting outlets have always been about propaganda
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/18/805849/-WTF-Obama-Appoints-Bush-Press-Secty.-Dana-Perino-to-Broadcast-Board
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:47 AM
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31. Even Thom Hartmann doesn't get this.
He had it on his show yesterday as one of his crazy things.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:44 AM
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22. Perino is just so stupid
This enshrinement of the mediocre and the promotion of those who are known to be under informed is harmful to the country. There are millions of Republicans in this country. Thousands more qualified than the likes of Perino. Just shameful.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:51 AM
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34. Earth to DU Part II -- when a Democratic President has to appoint a repug, the repugs get to choose
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 11:52 AM by HamdenRice
which repug. As stated upthread, it's usually the Senate minority leader. Blame him for picking dumb Perino.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:12 PM
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38. how dare you spoil a good poutrage!
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