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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:05 AM
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Zazzle Statement
http://blog.zazzle.com/2009/11/18/statement-on-psalm-109-products/

Statement on Psalm 109 Products
By zazzlemike
Dear Zazzle Member or Concerned Citizen—

Today, there has surfaced a great deal of discussion and debate over certain products in the Zazzle Marketplace which reference text from Psalm 109 in combination with reference to President Barack Obama. We at Zazzle are aware of the issue, and would like to take this opportunity to respond in a unified and public fashion to all parties and viewpoints.

Zazzle puts great value on its Marketplace as a forum for discussion and debate of the issues of our day. We are proud of the fact that no matter how arcane or apparently esoteric a subject may be, there can often be found Zazzle products pertaining to it. We are particularly sensitive to Zazzle as an open forum for the expression and debate of political viewpoints. The rigorous debate and discussion of political issues, including candidates for political office, our elected leaders, and pending and actual legislation, is something that drives the very democracy that in turn allows for our freedom as citizens to make these expressions in the first place.

With that in mind, it is only after great thought that we have determined that these products, in the context of the full text of Psalm 109, may be interpreted in such a way as to suggest physical harm to the President of the United States. In deference to the Office of the President of the United States, and in accordance with federal law prohibiting the making of threats against the physical wellbeing of the President of the United States, Zazzle has therefore determined that these products are in violation of the Zazzle User Agreement and not appropriate for inclusion in the Zazzle Marketplace. We have begun efforts to remove them from our website, and we will be vigilant to the publication of similar products moving forward.

Zazzle will continue to allow and encourage the submission of products that express disapproval or approval of the President’s policies and actions, but Zazzle will not permit products that may be interpreted to suggest violence toward the President.

Sincerely,
The Zazzle Team
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:07 AM
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1. Suck on it, CafePress
:thumbsup:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:07 AM
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2. Cafepress' loss is Zazzle's gain...
good for them.

Sid
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:08 AM
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3. Oh well then in that case!
Yeah! :applause:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:11 AM
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4. delete....we did dump cafe..
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 09:13 AM by madrchsod
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:14 AM
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5. Kudos to Zazzle.
Well done, and they did so in a very even-handed and fair manner without taking any political stance.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:15 AM
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6. Great call. In response to my email to CafePress
I received a polite "tough shit" and I wrote back saying CafePress would no longer receive my business, nor that of my family and friends. Boycott CafePress!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:16 AM
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7. Erm...
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:18 AM
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8. "We have begun efforts to remove them from our website"...
We have begun efforts to remove them from our website, and we will be vigilant to the publication of similar products moving forward.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:31 AM
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10. Fair enough.
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 10:31 AM by Robb
Statement's two days old now, we'll see how they do. :)

Edited to add: they zapped it! :toast:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:37 AM
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11. Of course new stuff will pop up
just need to alert and they will be removed.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:11 PM
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12. Dupe n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 01:15 PM by rocktivity
.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:11 PM
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13. While you hemmed and hawed, I e-mailed the link
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 01:14 PM by rocktivity
to their customer service. It's gone now--mission accomplished.


rocktivity
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:41 PM
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14. Indeed.
Of course I did the same thing, and noted its absence above... but congratulations to you as well.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:58 AM
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9. At the very least the fundies now know that their psalm crap is offensive
I assume they'll be ramping up their efforts to terrorize the left, because that's what the christian taliban does.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:49 PM
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15. K&R n/t
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:44 PM
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16. Thanks to DU Admin. for listening to many of us who had concerns regarding
cafe press selling products referencing Psalm 109.
http://www.cafepress.com/du_store
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 08:31 PM
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17. I'm late to this whole controversy but
did they remove some products with that Psalm on them and not others - or others popped up later? (link posted upthread)
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:13 PM
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18. What a steaming pile of bovine fecal mater!
As a matter of fact, they have Psalm 109 "gifts" on their site here: http://www.zazzle.com/psalm+109+gifts
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:44 PM
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21. They don't have anything to do with Obama. n/t
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 12:30 PM
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22. They have taken the offensive ones down.
I alerted on one yesterday that had a comment regarding liberals outrage (calling us hypercritical communists) over their shirts and poof today it is gone
They are doing a very good job of deleting the ones who reference the parts of palms 109 that promote hatred and vengeance through prayer.
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ConnorMarc Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:18 PM
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19. It Makes Me Glad That I've
Purchased products from them in the past.

I actually bought 3 Obama tee's from their site pre election.

I was planning on buying a new one or 2 every 2 weeks thereafter, but then the reality of the economy, namely my personal finances set in and I snapped outta that pipe-dream.

I will be gladly purchasing more Obama tee's from them in the future though.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:31 PM
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20. I told Cafe Press that I wouldn't buy anything from them . . .
ever again, but to be honest, I stopped purchasing items off their site over a year ago because Zazzle carries a higher quality shirt. I would say that they are also a higher quality business than Cafe Press.
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