I give up .

[blues90]

I see this health care or insurance bill as nothing more than a giveaway to the insurance companies . It makes no sense to me if I attempt to apply common sense and fairness . You can't leave out anyone as if they are trash .

How can it take so damn long unless it is written by the ins corps?

How can so many health issues be challenged when all are personal health issues ?

I look at this health insurance bill like I look at these insane wars , there are acceptable amounts of people who can be erased and forgotten . Filed away as friendly fire and I'm so damn sorry for your loss becomes the acceptable line.

All of this is so complicated that one wonders how we even got here and it is designed this way.

we trusted and that's where we went wrong.

Anyone who thinks this is the right way and fair way is living in an illusion.

We blow people up and that's ok and we actually think this is any different , well it's not .

For one of these horrors to end all must end or we will continue on going nowhere real fast.

If jobless and homeless and bombing other people is acceptable then we have already lost.

Really what other way can one look at this?

A preventable death is just that , whether because of this insane health insurance deal or by the insane wars or someone staving on the street, where is there a difference.

Isn't that the base reality of the entire thing? Have we reached a point in time where we should have progressed far past the point where any life is just a number and that's it yet we have not?

It certainly looks like it to me. Leave the politics out of it.

[slipslidingaway]

1. knr ....

"...You can't leave out anyone as if they are trash ..."

:applause:

[EmeraldCityGrl]

2. K&R

[saracat]

3. K+ R

[mmonk]

4. In the United States, the welfare of the people does not come first.

You have lived through the rise and ultimate fall of the corporate state.

[OneGrassRoot]

5. Right to life

Reading this brought home how much of a joke that phrase really is.

K&R

[SandWalker1984]

6. Mike Rivero sums it all up....

....our government has been taken over by the corporations.

Mike Rivero of whatreallyhappened.com said this:
We lost capitalism a long time ago. We have become fascist, as Lenin predicted would happen as capitalism failed.

The hallmarks of a fascist economy are the privatization of profit but the socialization of losses. That's what the bailouts are doing.

Then there is the corporatism which is the political foundation of fascism (as Mussolini points out), in which corporations and government align together against the general population. That is what we are seeing with the mandatory health insurance.

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. K&R

[Triana]

8. You just described the abject immorality of the United States of America

Ain't we just the bestest. :sarcasm:

(we could have been...that's the sad thing)

[mullard12ax7]

9. The failed capitalism war machine requires your money

to fund their self-created terror wars and their lavish lifestyles, how dare you consider human life.

[Eyerish]

10. K&R

[pleah]

11. K&R#50

[Odin2005]

12. I think I'm starting to go through the 5 stages of grief.

Stupak's BS started it, Obama's nonsensical fears about deficit spending confirmed it. :cry: