Boner's latest lie is a doozy; I'm amazed they get away with this...

[babylonsister]

and the people leaving comments just take it as gospel.


Sen. Reid’s Government-Run Health Plan Requires a Monthly Abortion Fee
Posted by GOP Leader Press Office on November 19th, 2009


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Just like the original 2,032-page, government-run health care plan from Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) massive, 2,074-page bill would levy a new “abortion premium” fee on Americans in the government-run plan.

Beginning on line 7, p. 118, section 1303 under “Voluntary Choice of Coverage of Abortion Services” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run health plan. Leader Reid’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions (line 13, p. 120).

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run health plan. It’s right there beginning on line 11, page 122, section 1303, under “Actuarial Value of Optional Service Coverage.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account – and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

more if you can stomach it...

http://republicanleader.house.gov/blog/?p=690

[jsamuel]

1. "Requires" "Optional" fee

oxy MORON

[quiet.american]

2. I may finally have to join Twitter just to be able to leave an...ahem..'comment.'

Unbelievable.

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Wow, the Republicans have a Minority leader who can't even read/understand the

language of a Senate bill.

Page 116
17 (1) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE OF
18 ABORTION SERVICES.—
19 (A) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any
20 other provision of this title (or any amendment
21 made by this title), and subject to subpara22
graphs (C) and (D)—
23 (i) nothing in this title (or any
24 amendment made by this title), shall be
25 construed to require a qualified health plan
Page 117
1 to provide coverage of services described in
2 subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part of
3 its essential health benefits for any plan
4 year; and
5 (ii) the issuer of a qualified health
6 plan shall determine whether or not the
7 plan provides coverage of services described
8 in subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii) as part
9 of such benefits for the plan year.
10 (B) ABORTION SERVICES.—
11 (i) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC
12 FUNDING IS PROHIBITED.—The services
13 described in this clause are abortions for
14 which the expenditure of Federal funds ap15
propriated for the Department of Health
16 and Human Services is not permitted,
17 based on the law as in effect as of the date
18 that is 6 months before the beginning of
19 the plan year involved.
20 (ii) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC
21 FUNDING IS ALLOWED.—The services de22
scribed in this clause are abortions for
23 which the expenditure of Federal funds ap24
propriated for the Department of Health
25 and Human Services is permitted, based
Page 118
1 on the law as in effect as of the date that
2 is 6 months before the beginning of the
3 plan year involved.

Page 121
8 (2) PROHIBITION ON THE USE OF FEDERAL
9 FUNDS.—
10 (A) IN GENERAL.—If a qualified health
11 plan provides coverage of services described in
12 paragraph (1)(B)(i), the issuer of the plan shall
13 not use any amount attributable to any of the
14 following for purposes of paying for such serv15
ices:
Page 122
3 (B) SEGREGATION OF FUNDS.—In the case
4 of a plan to which subparagraph (A) applies,
5 the issuer of the plan shall, out of amounts not
6 described in subparagraph (A), segregate an
7 amount equal to the actuarial amounts deter8
mined under subparagraph (C) for all enrollees
9 from the amounts described in subparagraph
10 (A).

[Voltaire]

4. Did he make that statement before or after the bar opened this morning?

fucking overtanned drunk

[snake in the grass]

5. They get away with it because...

...for the most part their Democratic colleagues rarely call them out directly on their lies. This emboldens them to tell ever more outrageous tales. I can't stand conservatives, but our own party representatives really enrage me with their spinelessness.

[gratuitous]

7. Grayson called them out

And took a shitload of abuse for it, even here.

But back to Mr. Boehner: So, nobody should pay any taxes for government services or programs that go against their personal beliefs? I'd like to talk with you about the tax money appropriated out of my pocket that goes toward war. Deal?

[snake in the grass]

8. Yes, Grayson knows how to deal with bullies.

I'd like to see more of this from other Democrats. Where did he catch abuse here for punching back? I missed that one, but I'll say this; those whining about Grayson are part of the problem I was talking about.

Edit to add this:



Tom Tomorrow sums it up perfectly.

[marmar]

6. Boehner was more believable when he held his former job.

[DainBramaged]

9. We have NO ONE to go on TeeVee tomorrow and dispute this

NO ONE. They have the media, we have bupkus.

[BeFree]

10. Oh yeah??

This quote:
"The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account – and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services."

So what? If it was true, and it should be, so what?
Do women need financial assistance or not?

Either stand up for what is right, or forget about it.