GOP Alternate Reality 101 - Lesson Of The Day

[WilliamPitt]

Poll: Majority Of Republicans Think Obama Didn't Actually Win 2008 Election -- ACORN Stole It!
Eric Kleefield
TPM.com

The new national poll from Public Policy Polling (D) has an astonishing number about paranoia among the GOP base: Republicans do not think President Obama actually won the 2008 election -- instead, ACORN stole it.

This number goes a long way towards explaining the anger of the Tea Party crowd. They not only think Obama's agenda is against America, but they don't think he was actually the choice of the American people at all! Interestingly, NY-23 Conservative candidate Doug Hoffman is now accusing ACORN of stealing his race, and Fox News personalities have often speculated about ACORN stealing the 2008 Minnesota Senate race for Al Franken.

The poll asked this question: "Do you think that Barack Obama legitimately won the Presidential election last year, or do you think that ACORN stole it for him?" The overall top-line is legitimately won 62%, ACORN stole it 26%. Among Republicans, however, only 27% say Obama actually won the race, with 52% -- an outright majority -- saying that ACORN stole it, and 21% are undecided. Among McCain voters, the breakdown is 31%-49%-20%. By comparison, independents weigh in at 72%-18%-10%, and Democrats are 86%-9%-4%.

Now, the obvious comparison would be that many Democrats felt that George W. Bush didn't legitimately win the 2000 election. But there are some clear differences. First of all, Al Gore empirically won the national popular vote in 2000, and lost in a disputed recount process in Florida. By comparison, John McCain lost the national popular vote by a 53%-46% margin. In order to believe that Obama wasn't the true winner of the 2008 election, one would have to think that ACORN (and perhaps other groups) stuffed ballots to the tune of over 9.5 million votes, Obama's national margin.

PPP communications director Tom Jensen says: "Belief in the ACORN conspiracy theory is even higher among GOP partisans than the birther one, which only 42% of Republicans expressed agreement with on our national survey in September."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/poll-gop-base-thinks-obama-didnt-actually-win-2008-election----acorn-stole-it.php?ref=fpa

These people are fucking insane.

[The Magistrate]

1. "Fucking Insane", Sir, Is The Only Apt Description Of These People....

[unblock]

12. rofl!

there's something wonderfully discordant yet completely appropriate about seeing "fucking insane" juxtaposed with "sir"....

[abelenkpe]

2. yes.

They are completely insane. And dangerous. And armed. An army of delusional fools fed by FOX news and right wing radio hatred.

How can we counter this effectively?

[Vincardog]

3. Considering the fact that only 20% of the US population self identifies as Republican. I find it

funny to dissect their beliefs. IE

20% are too demented to dress themselves.
10% can't remember to wipe after potty.
10% are crazy
20% are insane
10% are so racist they can not conceive of a person of color winning anything.
20% are BAT SHIT crazy.

It will soon come down to a list of INDIVIDUAL "beliefs"

[WilliamPitt]

4. You make an *excellent* point

[safeinOhio]

6. I'd like to correct your figures Vincardog

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_20082/2008_presidential_elect


14% of Americans would be unwilling to vote for(any) African American
another 13% were "unsure" if they would.


more like 14% to 27% "so racist they can not conceive of a person of color winning anything."

I think you are low on all of those figures.;)

[Vincardog]

8. It is hard work dividing 20% into manageable portions. The point stands

[LuvNewcastle]

5. ACORN was signing up black people

to vote and we know their votes aren't supposed to count. Well, maybe 3/5 of a vote.:sarcasm:

[The Wizard]

7. Ah those Republicans

They suffer from thought disorders and loose associations.
I refuse to talk to them. My time is too valuable to talk to nuts, unless I'm ridiculing them.
No one cares what Republicans have to say unless it's under oath.
No one believes what Republicans have to say even if it is under oath.
Any truth in the story of Sarah Palin dating O.J. Simpson?

[Vincardog]

9. IS Sarah Palin dating O.J. Simpson? Can we start a google bomb on that?

[gratuitous]

10. Republicans believe what they're told

And they're told over and over again, through various media outlets, that the 2008 election and the country were "stolen" from them, the rightful orders. Now, if something has been stolen, there must be a thief. And if the thief isn't apprehended, it's because someone or some group of someones is protecting the thief. And those people are stabbing America in the back.

The next step logically proceeds from there, and despite nitwit protestations that nobody who is against the Obama administration would ever resort to violence as the means to their end of terminating this theft of the country, the sons of bitches who bring us the national conversation are fully aiding and abetting the worst instincts of the most disturbed persons in our society.

[bertman]

11. I know some of these idjits personally and they appear normal during routine social

interactions. It's only when politics or religion come up that they morph into the pre-programmed, lobotomized, christian fascists that they are. Very scary.

[mojowork_n]

13. So aggressively stupid,

you wonder how they've managed to survive this long. No wonder they reject Darwin.