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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:05 PM
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Insurance tells woman her life not in danger, abortion not needed...billed $9,000.
We really are on the slippery slope by not recognizing anything besides death of the mother as a viable reason for a late-term abortion.

It is like we went back to the dark ages the last few years. We have let religion set the course that will determine a woman's choice....not science, not medicine...religion. And insurance companies.

From MS Magazine:

More Outrage Over Stupak-Pitts

This story could probably be told many times over.

“Our medical experts have determined that your life was not in danger and you could have carried the pregnancy to term. And, by the way, you owe us $9,000.”

Her voice breaking, D.J. Feldman, a Washington, D.C. federal employee, recently spoke to the press about her struggles with her insurance company after she aborted a much-desired pregnancy because of a fetal diagnosis of anencephaly (the absence of a major portion of the brain, skull and scalp). The insurance would only cover abortion in the case of rape, incest or a threat to her life, so the fact that if Feldman had continued the pregnancy, it would have been both physically and emotionally grueling—resulting either in a fetal demise, a stillbirth, or a live birth of a newborn who would quickly die—had no effect on the insurance company’s decision.

The primary culprit in this situation is not really Feldman’s insurance carrier, however, but the U.S. Congress. For decades it has imposed such unconscionable restrictions on abortion coverage for federal employees, as well as on women in the military, Native Americans using government provided health facilities and women on Medicaid in a majority of states.

Feldman is speaking out now because of her outrage that the notorious Stupak-Pitts amendment to the House health reform measure would extend such federal bans on abortion coverage to the millions of women who are enrolled in the private insurance market. Under this amendment, any insurance plan that wishes to be part of the new national health-care exchange would be prohibited from offering abortion coverage, although most insurance plans currently offer this coverage.


She has been to congressional offices to tell her story. Doesn't sound like they listened.

As traumatic as D.J. Feldman’s story is, she acknowledges that she is more fortunate than many other women in her situation, since she and her husband were able to pay for her abortion themselves. But she doesn’t want other women forced into a similar situation, especially those without extra financial resources. Feldman has not only spoken to the press but also visited various Congressional offices to speak against Stupak-Pitts. “I realized I had a moral obligation to speak out,” she said.


The Senate health care bill does not contain abortion coverage either. It just doesn't forbid it as much as the House bill.

More about the taking away of women's rights to have good health. Only the possible death of the mother is considered by many an acceptable reason for a late term abortion.

2008 New laws restricting the rights of women

More than a dozen countries have liberalized their abortion laws in recent years, including South Africa, Switzerland, Cambodia and Chad. In a handful of others, including Russia and the United States (or parts of it), the movement has been toward criminalizing more and different types of abortions. In South Dakota, the governor recently signed the most restrictive abortion bill since the Supreme Court ruled in 1973, in Roe v. Wade, that state laws prohibiting abortion were unconstitutional. The South Dakota law, which its backers acknowledge is designed to test Roe v. Wade in the courts, forbids abortion, including those cases in which the pregnancy is a result of rape or incest. Only if an abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother is the procedure permitted. A similar though less restrictive bill is now making its way through the Mississippi Legislature.


United States and Russia headed toward more criminalization of abortion laws while many are liberalizing their laws. That's a shame. Read more at NYT's Pro Life Nation

More about the partial birth abortion ban of 2003 which many of our Democrats supported.

It was easy enough to get the ban on late term abortions. The Democrats helped it along.

Harold Ford

Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life.
Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003: Vote to pass a bill banning a medical procedure, which is commonly known as "partial-birth" abortion. The procedure would be allowed only in cases in which a women's life is in danger, not for cases where a women's health is in danger. Those who performed this procedure, would face fines and up to two years in prison, the women to whom this procedure is performed on are not held criminally liable.
Reference: Bill sponsored by Santorum, R-PA; Bill S.3 ; vote number 2003-530 on Oct 2, 2003

Tom Carper:

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life.
S. 3 As Amended; Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. Vote to pass a bill banning a medical procedure, which is commonly known as "partial-birth" abortion. Those who performed this procedure would then face fines and up to two years in prison, the women to whom this procedure is performed on are not held criminally liable. This bill would make the exception for cases in which a women's life is in danger, not for cases where a women's health is in danger.

Also voting for the so-called "partial birth abortion" ban were other Democrats. The bill did not allow for a woman's health to be considered. Just a life or death situation.

In the Senate:

John Breaux, Harry Byrd, Kent Conrad, Tom Daschle, Byron Dorgan, Fritz Hollings, Tim Johnson, Mary Landrieu, Patrick Leahy, Blanche Lincoln, Miller (GA), Ben Nelson, Pryor AK, Harry Reid.

Not voting.
John Edwards, John Kerry, Joe Biden.


Fearful to take stands with women.

More from 2007...the Supreme Court upholds the Partial abortion ban of 2003. From the CS Monitor:

US Supreme Court allows late-term abortion ban

In a major ruling dealing with abortion rights in America, the US Supreme Court has upheld a federal law banning certain late-term abortions.

In a 5-to-4 decision announ-ced Wednesday, the high court upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. The move comes nearly seven years after the Supreme Court declared a similar Nebraska law unconstitutional because it lacked an exception to protect a woman's health.

This time a different lineup of justices upheld a federal version of essentially the same law, even though it does not contain a so-called health exception that would permit the banned abortion procedure when a physician deemed it necessary to safeguard a woman's health.

The decision marks the first time since the landmark abortion precedent Roe v. Wade in 1973 that the nation's highest court has ruled in a way that places considerations of a woman's health as secondary to efforts by the government to restrict abortion procedures performed prior to fetal viability. That shift could embolden antiabortion forces to try to enact more restrictions at the state level.

Writing for the majority in Wednesday's decision, Justice Anthony Kennedy said the lack of a health exception does not automatically render the statute unconstitutional. "Whether the act creates significant health risks for women has been a contested factual question," he writes. "Both sides have medical support for their position.


Some say a woman's "health" can be too widely interpreted...some say women use their "health" as an excuse for an abortion.

And now Stupak Pitts in the House, and no abortion coverage in the Senate per Hyde.

For a supposedly enlightened country we are disregarding women's rights...setting progress back many years because of religious concerns.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:15 PM
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1.  And no one cares. The Senate Bill "softens" the language a bit
but the intent is still there. And when liberals like Kerry and Boxer say this is acceptable and make statements like "upholding Hyde and supporting that legislation is the intent", I wonder why it is that no one has ever attempted to ovedturn Hyde? I guess it is all part of the game and women are the one's being "gamed". More and more of the women I know say they are just "tired". They will no longer donate or support the Dems.

I attended a fundraiser the other night and attempted to talk to a state official about Stupak, and she, who had been "elected" by pro-choice femmales, with the endorsement of Planned Parenthood, just shrugged and said the Democratic party was a"Big Tent". Seriously. And no one need dare whisper about faith based iniatives.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:26 PM
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3. It makes me so, so angry
the only possible positive is that it will trigger some kind of revolt. I know EMILY's list is in the throes of some major fundraising based on this.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:41 PM
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6. Unfortunately some of the folks that care the least were elected by Emily's list.
Look at Nancy Pelosi.It seems "winning for winnings sake alone" is the new meme.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:00 PM
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15. "why it is that no one has ever attempted to overturn Hyde? "
Maybe when we get a majority?

:shrug:
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NoUsername Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:37 AM
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40. There ya go again, criticizing the Dems when everyone knows
they need a super majority super-duper majority super-duper-duper majority super-duper-duper-duper majority to overturn Hyde.

And once they have that super-duper-duper-duper majority, you can be sure they might just possibly maybe start thinking about ending the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Well, that is if Halliburton/KBR/DynCorp/Blackwater/et.al say it's OK to do so.

Otherwise, all bets are off.

And after that, you can be damn sure they'll tackle Wall Street regulation.

Uh, if it's OK with the people on Wall Street, that is.

So dammit, before you start criticizing the Dems, why don't you think about all the people they have to consider when pondering these issues. Like the .01 percenters, for instance.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 08:48 AM
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47. You are being a "hater". Womans rights must take a back seat...
to this monumental HCR bill!!! It will cure all that ails us with it's potential Rose Garden Signing ceremony! Just relax, we can win those rights back in 40-50 years. gobama!
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:24 PM
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2. This country is really backward in so many ways.
It's amazing how many people who want late-term abortions banned don't even understand why the procedure needs to be legal. They just blindly accept whatever the nosy old white right wing shrieks at them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:55 PM
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12. Backward in many ways....schools fighting to teach creationism
which is also religion based.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:30 PM
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4. Americans don't give a damn about abortion rights anymore. We are gonna
have to see the pendulum swing ALL the way to the right, with all abortion being illegal and prosecuted as murder before this country wakes up and smells the coffee.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:09 PM
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22. I'm afraid you are right.
I think the same is true for a lot of other things, too. All the progress we've made over the last 100 years is going to have to be erased. And then our children or grand-children are going to have to re-invent it.

:banghead:
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:39 PM
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5. I knew a woman in a similar situation
Her baby had a genetic defect "incompatible with life." She was five months pregnant. The insurance company flat out told her she would have to wait for the baby to die before they'd pay for her to have it removed. Fortunately the defect was really incompatible with life and the baby died soon afterwards. I can't imagine the horror if she had had to carry that baby to term.

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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:43 PM
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7. Help?
This Stupak Pitts amendment: How would it effect these two scenarios:

1. Pregnant with twins. One twin has encephalitis, will not survive and deemed a threat to the other twin who is developing perfectly. Would the mother not be allowed to save the baby that is OK?

2. Pregnant mother with Lupus. Desperately wants child but baby is not developing well and is endangering mothers life. Would the mother not be allowed to have an abortion?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 10:16 PM
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35. Probably like this:
Scenario 1: Abortion not allowed. According to Jeremiah 1:5, God knew the encephalitic twin before He formed it, so aborting it would anger the LORD. And when it takes out the healthy twin and quite possibly the mother, they'll all spend eternity with Jesus. (Screw the mother's other three kids; it's God's Will they all die, and how dare we challenge that?)

Scenario 2: Arguable. Most antiwomanists claim they support an exception for the life of the mother, and this definitely qualifies. The open question is, of course, can we be sure the mother will go to a doctor who recognizes her condition as life-threatening, and not a Physician for Life?
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:44 PM
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8. Tragic
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:47 PM
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9. What do you want to bet if she had carried it to term
I bet if she had carried it to term the insurance company would have said it wasn't a viable pregnancy and denied the bill for delivering the child. They will stop at nothing to deny coverage.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:44 AM
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51. I can see that happening
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 11:49 AM by GreenPartyVoter
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voteearlyvoteoften Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:59 PM
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10. rec
sad story...kudos to ms Feldman, I hope she gets her healthy baby someday.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:01 PM
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11. k i c k
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:16 PM
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13. Anencephaly!?! That's a certain stillbirth (or shortly-after); cruel to both child & mother
to bring such a pregnancy to full term. No justification to deny late termination.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:19 PM
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14. She is brave to tell her story, but I fear most will not listen.
Even Democrats are so much into blaming a woman for her decisions.

I am getting more of the mind that we will not keep a majority in 2010 if we don't use what we have now.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:16 PM
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16. Yup, have the deformed baby and rack up tens of thousands of dollars
in medical to sit by and watch it die a few days later. That's compassion for you.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:24 PM
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17. Nothing seems to cover "health" of the mother.
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/19/how-the-senate-abortion-language-differs-from-stupak/

"The language on abortion in the original version of House health care reform bill, before it was amended on the floor, and the Senate language on abortion are very similar. Both say that:

* No federal funds will be used to pay for abortions, but as provided by the Hyde amendment, exceptions are made for rape, incest, and the life of the mother"

Not a word about her "health".



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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:13 PM
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24. That's a big difference, so techniocally if the woman only might go into a coma...
...then it's not life-threatening...Stupak can go PHUCK himself.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:53 PM
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32. Or forced to carry a dead fetus full term...
without financial resources to fight the laws on this. They might consider that life-threatening to the mother, but it could take precious time to fight it.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:34 AM
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45. you do realize that the drug companies are on the dol?
and the insurance will just raise rates on every one to cover the expence.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:26 PM
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18. K&R!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:31 PM
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19. That is just pathetic!
:grr:
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:33 PM
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20. Rape cases take months in Court to prosecute sometimes.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:05 PM
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21. Do they need to have a conviction to allow an abortion?
Is that what the Hyde amendment says?
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:11 PM
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23. And you don't think that they are going to say "prove it?"
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:22 PM
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27. Well, what does the law say?
I don't know, so I'm asking.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:15 PM
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25. Read this about "forcible" rape. They do not care about the woman, only power.
"A day before the bill passed out of committee, Stupak co-sponsored, and voted for an amendment written by Rep. Joe Pitts (R-PA)--distinct from the now notorious "Stupak amendment"--that would have limited the government's ability to include abortions in benefits plans to cases of incest, life of the mother, and forcible rape.

The Pitts amendment actually passed, 31-27, with the support of several Democrats and all Republicans. But the "forcible" language--legally significant--was a bridge too far.

In a parliamentary maneuver, chairman Henry Waxman actually voted "aye", according to a House aide, in order to retain the prerogative of bringing it up for a second, unsuccessful vote. Between votes, Waxman conferred with some of the bill's Democratic supporters to convince them to help shoot it down."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/13/804145/-Stupak:-Its-All-the-Liberals-Fault!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:34 PM
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29. Thanks
I'm not sure I understood all the parliamentary manouevers there, but it's fairly clear that Stupak is a major tool.

I think that last KOS diarist comment says it all:

Forcible rape only, no date rape, no marital rape, no Roman-Polanski style rape. Presumably because a girl or woman in any non-forcible rape situation would have been "asking for it" anyway.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:16 PM
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26. The age of Enlightenment
ended w/ Raygun and the Dark Ages have progressed nicely.

Instead of making women wear burqas, they market 4" heels, so tight jeans that organs are bruised and thong underwear. I'm glad I'm invisible.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:34 PM
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28. Stupak is not a goddamn Democrat...
Kick the motherfucker out of the party already.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:40 PM
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30. I am pretty sure Biden was in hospital at the time of that vote
so I think he should get a pass on it.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:44 PM
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31. Stupak needs to be replaced.
Have any Dems in his district stepped up to challenge him? I'd be willing to bet that DUers would donate heavily to replace him with a real Democrat.

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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:12 PM
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34. There is no doubt in my mind -- NONE -- that Obama would gladly sign a bill that makes abortion
coverage for ALL woman a thing of the past, as long as he could claim he passed a bill. For Obama, women's health in this particular regard is just totally expendable.

Not. One. Doubt. In. My. Mind.

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NoUsername Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:00 AM
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42. Hey, c'mon now. He's way bigger than than that.
Obama has already demonstrated his ability to sell out to Wall Street and the MIC. Hell, women's right are small potatoes in comparison to that. He won't so much as blink an eye to give up women's rights, especially since doing so will inevitably enrich his campaign coffers. After all, it's not like his daughters will ever feel the effects of any bill he signs. If need be, they'll just get a D&C like all the other rich people. The topic of the OP only affects the poor and, as such, is of no concern to Obama or 99.9% of the bastards that serve as our so-called "representatives." "Health care?" "Abortion?" Pffffttt. That's for the commoners. The rich already have those things sorted out.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 10:30 PM
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36. K&R
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 11:04 PM
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37. K&R - my sister-in-law
had the same situation a few years ago, but the fetus had no brain at all. They caught it early and she was able to have a D&C. She's Catholic and never would have had an abortion but when this happened, she finally understood the need to have safe, legal access to this life saving procedure.

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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:15 AM
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38. Many would say that's not far enough
I have argued with several people who are certain that there is no such thing as a medically necessary abortion. Really, they are certain that no woman in the US would die if forced to bring a pregnancy to term. And yes, I know full well how absurd that is but they were utterly sure of it and no amount of facts or reasoning would convince them otherwise.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:21 AM
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39. Because it is a religious view. Not a reasoned, thought out stance.
Religious views are easy to shape...just say God said it, I believe it, that settles it. I grew up that way as a Southern Baptist. It's easier than thinking.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:46 AM
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41. Never got the hang of that kind of certainty n/t
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:17 AM
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44. You cannot reason with religion. Religious "fact" denys logic and reason.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 02:20 AM
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46. "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." That is the strong belief
of the ideologues. No arguing, just just keep quoting the Bible.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 01:09 AM
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43. If this is not FULLY corrected in the final bill, I
will find myself cheering on Lieberman. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of crap. I am sick sick sick of all the compromises. I am totally disgusted at the give-aways to the insurance industry and the reich wing.

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 08:49 AM
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48. +1
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:26 AM
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49. An obvious q: Why aren't these laws challenged on grounds of gender discrimination
outlawed by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Pregnancy Discrimination Act, and the Equal Protection clauses in the amendments to the Constitution?
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:41 AM
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50. There are a lot of different abortion narratives
The right has convinced themselves that most abortions are simply the result of sexually promiscuous women (who shouldn't be having sex anyway, especially if they enjoy it) having abortions as a matter of convenience.

My wife game down with a platelet disorder with our first child. After her splenectomy and several other treatments, she got better, and we decided to have a second child. We hoped she wouldn't get sick again. She did get pregnant in short order, and gave birth to a wonderful, healthy little girl, but she did get sick again. Now she's on a medication that costs $7,000 a month. Of course, because she's a federal employee, her health coverage would not have covered an abortion, if she had decided to go that route.

All kinds of complications happen to all kinds of people for all kinds of reasons. In this case, it probably would have saved the insurance company a lot of money if my wife had aborted our second child. I wish that the people who feel so strongly about these blanket bans on abortion would consider the real world situations that are not only possible, but which also happen.

It's none of their goddamn business.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:50 AM
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52. can't rec--but will kick for this incredibly important story. there are almost no words
for the incredible woman-hating that is involved in these situations.
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zogtheobvious Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 11:54 AM
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53. "It looks like they didn't listen."
Of COURSE they didn't listen! THEY DON'T CARE. People are screaming for healthcare reform, so they've slapped this thing together, but is it real reform? Of course not. A few of the more egregious things, such as not being able to be turned down for pre-existing conditions or dropped when you do get sick will be given to us as a handout to shut us up (and make no mistake, those ARE important and historic provisions) but the rest of it is a huge handout to the insurance companies. If the congress wants to do anything for us (like those provisions) they have to suck the dicks of their corporate masters and give them huge handouts in return.

That's Capitalism!
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