Kate Moss criticised over 'skinny is best' motto

[ccharles000]

The saying Moss used is featured on pro-anorexia websites

Model Kate Moss has been criticised by campaigners after saying she lives by a slogan which encourages people with anorexia not to eat.

In an interview with fashion news website WWD, Moss said one of her mottoes was: "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels."

The saying is widely used by anorexia and bulimia sufferers on websites.

Eating disorder charity Beat described the comments as "dangerous" and "very unhelpful" for sufferers.

In the interview Moss adds: "That's one of them. You try and remember, but it never works."

A spokeswoman for Beat said it was "a very unfortunate phrase" particularly as it was widely used on pro-anorexia websites.

"She probably doesn't realise how dangerous such comments can be. It's difficult enough for young people who are struggling to beat eating disorders, without comments like this which are very unhelpful," she said.

Katie Green, a former Ultimo underwear model, who has launched a Say No To Size Zero campaign with Liberal Democrat MP Lembit Opik, said the comments were "irresponsible".

She said: "I think Kate Moss should really have thought before she spoke like most of us do before giving interviews. Kate is a mother herself and how would parents with children suffering from eating disorders feel reading something like this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8368057.stm

[SoCalDem]

1. All they need to do is put those size zeros next to what that size would have been

before they started monkeying around with women's clothes-sizing.

I double-dog dare women to get out a tape measure & measure the waist size on those "zero" pants..and then the hips...and compare those measurements to what was the 'gold-standard" for DECADES of ready-to-wear..

Here's a hint.. a size TEN pair of slacks used to have a 24" waist..NO ELASTIC..no spandex..

I wonder what that size zero measures:eyes:

These silly girls/women are risking their lives to fit into unrealistically sized clothes made (mostly) by men who must hate women..

[Johonny]

8. actually if you goto the shops in SoCal

you'll find a lot of the "women" shopping for the size zero are Asian. I'm pretty sure they all don't have eating disorders. Not every culture is the same shape. Also the fashion in those magazines are mostly made by European designers that are focused on designing for European and now Asian women (yes there are Asian Vogues with nothing but Asian models). If you goto an American designer store sizes tend to be bigger. This is true even in mens clothing. My GF basically can't shop at American designers stores (sans American Apparel, made in America!) for the most part. And that uses up all my fashion knowledge. Not that I don't agree with what your saying for the most part. American women are generally advertised clothing lines that aren't designed for their body shape, by people that don't eat and live in their life style. The results are generally not good. I'm not sure the designers hate women though.

[Captain Hilts]

16. Why don't they just use real sizes - measures in inches? Avg. waist size for women is 34inches.

[sudopod]

21. This

[SoCalDem]

30. In the 60's there was a clothing mfg called FemForm

they were based in Texas. My aunt ordered their line, and they did size by waist size & length. Our customers LOVED those pants, because you could truly get a just-right fit..Of course the tags also had a "comparable-size" designation on them.."Size 5/6" was the smallest they offered, which had a 21" waist.. 7/8 encompassed 22-23" waist..9/10 was 24", 11/12 was 25-26, etc.

These were no nonsense slacks..no stretch..side zippers..no hidden tummy-panels.

[Missy Vixen]

2. She's being truthful

There was a study a few years back that found most people would rather lose an extremity (arm, for instance,) than be fat.

In this society, fat is considered sufficiently repulsive to cause those in the same study to believe that, if given the choice, they'd rather have a year taken off their lives than be fat as well.

Of course, then people wonder why there's suddenly an explosion in the number of eating disorders. Color me astonished...

[JNelson6563]

6. As a naturally thin person

I have to say, looks have nothing to do with it in my case.

When I became pregnant with my first child I was determined to have a big, healthy baby. I ate a lot and gained over 40 pounds. On a frame as sight as mine that was quite something. It was the first time I ever appreciated the ease of movement I had always enjoyed until that point. Hot weather was much more miserable to me. It felt awful. I had the baby and we were pretty poor at the time. Slipped back into my eating habits of eating only when hungry, stopping when not hungry anymore. The weight fell off easily under those circumstances.

I never got into large portions so don't eat much at a sitting, I am healthy and greatly appreciate my ease of movement. Nevermind how I look, it just feels good to be light on my feet.

Julie

[Raschel]

7. I agree. Besides the health factor, being thin, (not anorexic) feels so good.

I was thin most of my life, gained in later age, and I miss as you say, "the ease of movement".

I'm working on it.

[JNelson6563]

12. I'm getting a bit older now too.

I am fortunate to be pretty healthy and to have a job that keeps me moving all day long.

I cannot imagine what my situation would be if I had a less physically active day-to-day life.

Good luck getting that ease of movement back. :toast: Glad to hear from someone who knows what I'm talking about.

Julie

[woodsprite]

3. Well then they need to beat Weight Watchers down too for saying that

because that is repeated multiple times at almost every meeting I've ever been to over the years - "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels".

[treestar]

4. I bet she's never really been fat

Or even normal.

Yes, thin is better, but not anorexic. Moderation in all things.

[Odin2005]

5. Curvy women are best, so STFU, Ms. Moss.

[Gwendolyn]

10. No one body type is "best." And it's not a contest.

Everybody is acceptable.

[Captain Hilts]

18. If that's the way you're built it's "best." Only 15% of women have the 'hourglass' shape.

Most are pear shaped and next is a straight build.

The avg. waist size for US women is 34 inches, yet, a 31 inch waist puts you in the 'extra large' category of clothes. My running gear catalogue doesn't have clothes for women with a waist over 31 inches. How sick is that?

[Zywiec]

20. I'm a 6'2" man and my waist size is 34 inches.

If that's the average woman's waist size, I'd love to see it broken down by age groups.

[Gwendolyn]

22. Here you go...

Captain Hilt is spot on with her figures. The average woman's waist size was 27 back in the fifties. She was also two inches shorter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/01/national/01SIZE.html?pagewanted=all

Industry standards set a size 8 at a 35-inch bust, a 27-inch waist, and 37.5-inch hip. In the survey, white women ages 18 to 25 came in, on average, 38-32-41, with white women ages 36 to 45 coming in at 41-34-43. (Barbie, long the plastic bane of body image, is said to have measurements that project to about 39-18-33.) In that same age group, black women measure, on average, 43-37-46, Hispanic women 42.5-36-44, and "other" women, which researchers said meant mostly Asian, 41-35-43.

Similarly, most men are larger than the traditional 40 regular, long considered the average. A 40 regular, according to standards, means a 40-inch chest, 34-inch waist, and 40-inch hip, with a 15.5-inch collar. In the survey, white men ages 18 to 25 had, on average, a 41-inch chest, 35-inch waist, 41-inch hips and a 16-inch collar (that is raw neck size ? shirts are generally sized at least a half-inch bigger). From the ages of 36 to 45, white men came in at 44-38-42, black men 43-37-42, Hispanic men 44-38-42 and "other" 42-37-41.

[Captain Hilts]

23. When I weighed 115 lbs., I had a 31" waist. I was darn thin. I'd have to have ribs removed to be 28

[Gwendolyn]

25. Lol, I know, and it's all relative anyway. I read an article not long ago

which accounted for at least some of the change in body shapes due to the fact that we're now taller as well. So there are more "straighter" figures out there than the hour glass figure we used to see on women of the fifties and before. Don't know if it's the right way to describe it, but guess we now have a slightly longer distance between our breasts and hips.

[Captain Hilts]

26. My ribs sit on my hips. But I'm 5'2" and wear a size 8.5 shoe. I was supposed

to be someone taller. I've got the shoulders, too, so I don't need shoulder pads.

The shoulders save me from being pear shaped.

I remember when I hit 115 a couple of times. I was about that for a couple of years after a bout with mono. Then again when I came back from my year in Moscow. I remember telling my beau, "I'm glad I didn't starve myself to get here, or I'd be really pissed. I don't fit in clothes one bit better."

[Gwendolyn]

27. 115 sounds like a very decent weight for 5'2"!

I'm a little taller than you at 5'6" and weigh 126. I'm athletic so I carry some muscle and thankfully have wide shoulders too. I think nice shoulders look really good on women, and you're right, it offsets what might be a pear shape. I guess I'm more of a straight body type. My beef is with bras. My back is wider - 36 but I fill slightly less. :-D

I don't get the whole thing with sizes. Guys and co-workers are always surprised that I'm so willing to blurt out my body weight as if it's some kind of precious secret or something. I actually buy all my trousers for work in men's stores. They're more comfy, better made, and less expensive. And you can buy them by waist size. All the rest is a blur, and am never sure what size I wear. It varies from store to store, brand to brand.

[Captain Hilts]

32. I'm bulkier than that now. But YES, I ALWAYS buy pants in men's stores. Good ones.

The fit is more consistent. The waist is where it should be. Alterations are often included. REAL materials like cashmere, wool, linen, etc. Practically none of the polyester that dominates women's clothes.

I, too, have never been afraid to tell people my weight.

[Gwendolyn]

34. Great minds and all that! :-)

You're soooo right about the polyester rampant in women's clothes, whereas men's clothes are made from superior fabrics AND are produced with better workmanship. I hate that women get screwed that way and end up paying more for crappier products. Same with services like dry cleaning.

[Odin2005]

29. Now days Marylin Monroe would be considered fat. It's ridiculous.

[Mari333]

9. I have a friend who is my age, 58 , and she looks like shes going to blow away

she used to be normal, like me, a regular sized person.
Now, she is so thin you can see the bones in her back thru her shirt.
She is VERY into presenting herself as 'thin and rich'. She has a huge house full of yuppiestuff, shops at whole foods, presents herself as a liberal but brags incessantly about her this n that, where she shops, what 'shoppes' she shops at, and she is a notorious culture vulture. Its pretty boring, and I used to find her amusing, but now she looks like a death camp survivor.

She says odd things like "Oh, I ate too much yesterday, I need to work out to get rid of it!"

She has a home gym. But she is so thin its terrifying.

I know her personality, she is very controlling. I wont visit her because if you drop a teacup in her house she yells at you.

I wonder if anorexia is found mostly in people with low self esteem, who are highly critical of how they look to the world, and a need to feel ;in control,

I avoid her now, shes very hard to be around.

[Odin2005]

28. Your friend sounds like she has OCD.

She needs a psych.

[Mari333]

31. I agree

But she scares the shit out of me, so hopefully she will get help without me. I avoid her. :)

[stanwyck]

11. Didn't Dr. Stephen Gullo originate this phrase?

He's a diet guru with a couple of books and a celebrity clientele. I had a friend tell me "Nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels" back in the early '80's. She credited Dr. Gullo.

[Javaman]

13. and kate moss is the paragon of rational thought?

Perhaps I would take her a little bit more seriously if she wasn't a raging drug addict.

The banal view that somehow celebrities are the voice of reason.

In our society, it's a wonder to me that there aren't more individuals that are the victims of self inflicted stupidity with the way celebrities are propped up as "authorities" on anything.

[Captain Hilts]

24. Sad to say, but she's influential. nt

[smirkymonkey]

35. Yes, but for how much longer?

All that partying is aging her beyond her years. I suspect that in the near future, she'll be yesterday's news and perhaps a new paradigm will become dominant. Everything loses it's novelty after a while - even being anorexically thin.

[WI_DEM]

14. fit is best--anorexia is not.

[Maine-ah]

15. I am an anorexic.

It's a battle to eat. It gets worse when I am depressed. At one point I was at 97lbs. I had several years where I did just fine, was up to 130 which was a little over weight at my height. I got pregnant, breast fed for 13 months. After that, I have gone down hill. I try to maintain my 115lbs, and not go under. I'm a size 4. I don't want my daughter to grow up and be like me.

I have at least acknowledged my problem, and I work hard to battle it on a daily basis.

"Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels." ~ So true in the mind of an anorexic.

[Romulox]

17. Cocaine is a hell of an appetite suppresant!

R.I.P. Rick James!

[applegrove]

19. Did you hear that Kate Moss was pregnant? Turns out she just ate an egg for lunch. LOL!

[DU GrovelBot]

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