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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:15 AM
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Repug administrations trying terror suspects good. Dem administrations trying terror suspects bad
And the media goes right along with it. Something is funny here.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/sessions-giuliani-backed_n_362479.html

Sessions, Giuliani Backed Trying Moussaoui In Fed Court, Other GOPers Praised Outcome

First Posted: 11-18-09 02:17 PM | Updated: 11-18-09 02:42 PM

Addressing the Department of Justice's decision to try terrorist suspects in civilian court rather than a military tribunal, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), on Wednesday, called the move unprecedented and indefensible.

Only, it's happened before, and Sessions, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, once defended it.

Back in 2002, when the Bush Department of Justice put Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th 9/11 hijacker, on trial in a federal court in northern Virginia, the Alabama Republican was willing to grant presidential deference.

"{The White House} probably thought it might be good to try this one in public," Sessions said, according to a Lexis-Nexis transcript of a January 2, 2002, Gannett News Service article.

Sessions, who the news service described as backing Bush's decision, noted that the hearings would come with additional hurdles. "Jurors will have to be sequestered and taken back and forth to court in armed motorcades," he said. "Jurors will probably have to be provided protection after the verdict." He also made it clear that if the decision were left to him, he would have opted for the military tribunals. "I hope they thought this through and don't expose intelligence techniques," he said.

But he was far more lenient and forgiving of Bush than he has been towards the Obama administration for choosing the same judicial path. On Wednesday, the Alabama Republican told Fox News that Attorney General Eric Holder's current decision was "really not a defensible position."

"It represents a historic change in how we treat those who are at war with the United States," he said. "It is going to create a lot of complications once we are at trial."

Sessions isn't the only one whistling a harsher tune now than he did nearly eight years ago. Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been dispatched by the Republican Party this past week to savage the Obama White House for its decision, insisted that putting detainees like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed on trial would give "an unnecessary advantage... to the terrorists."

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:08 AM
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1. It is true.
"...insisted that putting detainees like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed on trial would give "an unnecessary advantage... to the terrorists.""

These terrorists might spill the beans on the amount of help the received and who provided it.
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Cyrano69 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:00 AM
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2. The problem with the Moussaoui- KSM analogy is...
That Moussaoui was captured on U.S. Soil, making a military tribunal as troublesome for the Bush Admin, as these meatheads trial in NYC is for the Obama Admin.

KSM and his buddies were captured offshore, and held offshore. They are admitted enemy combatants who have admitted their actions and asked for death. They have no RIGHT to the Constitution. They are not American citizens, nor were they captured on American Soil.

Never before have we captured enemy combatants overseas, and brought them here for a criminal trial. It also doesn't make any legal sense to try these guys when you are going to leave others in their same situation to the military tribunal system.

I am sorry, but having lost friends on 9-11, I have to take Winston Churchill's advice that he gave before the Nuremburg Tribunals, he said, "This is a waste of time. We know what they did. We know how they did it. Assemble the firing squad."
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