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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:54 PM
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Open Letter to Christians and Others
Open Letter to Christians and Others

I am posting this in the general forum because it crosses forum lines. It involves politics, religion, theology, civil rights, state lines, gay rights. It involves everything that this country was founded on.



I was brought up in a Christian belief. The faith I was taught was a god that promoted love for everyone. He said love your enemy and your neighbor. He said believe in me and let your faith show in the good works you do. Either one by itself will not get you to salvation and everlasting life. He was a god of free choice. One could decide in him or not.

Within that love that god promotes are many things. Tolerance, compassion, help of the poor, help of ones in need. Love is not something that you use to hurt someone. The love to let others live their life as they let you live yours. The Golden Rule comes to mind.

What I see today are people deciding that they know best how everyone should live because they know the best way. They do this in the name of god. They think because they believe in god then everything they do is okay because they have god on their side. This is no different than the Crusades, the Inquisition, and any number of religious atrocities. We all are in danger of losing our civil rights in the name of someone else's god.

First they will attack the people they think that do not have a god belief. They all must be devils. Next they will attack those that have a faith in a god but it is different than they believe. There is no telling which side one will find themselves. What is happening is that all Christians are being lumped together into a pot of religious fanaticism.

Heard the other night O'Reilly ask Dobbs if he thought Obama was the devil. Why the hell is religion being lumped into politics?? There are politicians out there that invoke the name of god at every chance they get. They are the worst. They never tell you which god they are talking about. The god of hate and greed or the god of love and peace. Ask them next time they say it. We have large scale corruption in government and they have the gall to invoke god into the equation.

The war that is being raged in this country is worse than anything that any terrorist from the outside could do. If this continues we will either have no country or it will be a country of one religion and you do not know which one.

Christians have to decide which god they believe in. The god of love and peace or the god of hate and greed. Even within the god of love it involves a lot of questions. Gay rights is a very large one. You have to ask yourself if you believe in the same rights for everyone. If not then people will know which side you are on, if you do then you need to ask yourself if people are free to love whomever they want. I see no harm in gay marriage because it does not harm marriage. In fact it may strengthen marriage as a institution. Marriage is a civil union and not a religious one. If a church cares not to acknowledge a gay marriage they have that right but not the right of the state to grant a marriage.

The war that is going on in this country at this time will require everyone to look inside themselves and decide what their beliefs are. Not just beliefs when it comes to organized religion but all beliefs as they concern civil rights and the rights of others as long as they cause no harm. After you look inside then ask yourself why you believe the way you do. Find out where these beliefs came from. Did they come from someone telling you to believe this way or did you come to these beliefs on your own. Ask yourself if you want to live in a country where someone else tells you who to love, where to work, what schooling you will have, who you can marry, how many kids you can have, basically someone telling you how to live, how to think, what to believe, every aspect of your life.

Christians have to decide which Christian they are. Stay quiet and your choice will be made for you.

I see this as a war. There are people out there trying to destroy the constitution of this country. The very basis of this country. They just hide behind god. It is a civil war. A war over civil rights.

I know where I stand and I find myself afraid of no god.

Angry Dragon
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:13 PM
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1. FWIW, I would assume DUer christians have already decided and that's why they're here.
instead on that other conservative site.

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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:19 PM
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2. I do not doubt that
I need to go to that site if you would be so kind as to point me in the right direction.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:27 PM
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3. I don't think I"m allowed to link to it
(not sure) but when people refer to "freepers" they're referring to that site.

but, regardless, as a liberal christian, I generally agree with these rants when they're posted here, but all too often the ranter targets DU christians by implication because its posted here, which is a bit of wrong targeting.


Sort of reminds me of a teacher that got angry in college because several people skipped his class so he punished the ones that showed up by giving a pop quiz.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:47 PM
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5. I am sure most here believe in rights for all
The point I was trying to make was that we all have to yell louder. The other side is loud and they seem to be the only side being heard. This is important to me and sometimes the words do not come out as I wish to get my point across.

Hint on the site and I will post it there. I even wrote the Pope and asked him why he thought this was okay.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:29 PM
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4. Yes but why let that interfere with a lecture.
;)
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