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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:30 PM
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Derailing for Dummies. Bookmark it! Whip it out for those "discussions"!
Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 03:37 PM by uppityperson
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/#disbelief

You know how it is. You’re enjoying yourself, kicking back and relaxing at the pub or maybe at the library; or maybe you’re in class or just casually surfing the internet, indulging in a little conversation. The topic of the conversation is about a pertinent contemporary issue, probably something to do with a group of people who fall outside your realm of experience and identity. They’re also probably fairly heavily discriminated against - or so they claim.
The thing is, you’re having a good time, sharing your knowledge about these people and their issues. This knowledge is incontrovertible - it’s been backed up in media representation, books, research and lots and lots of historical events, also your own unassailable sense of being right.

Yet all of a sudden something happens to put a dampener on your sharing of your enviable intellect and incomparable capacity to fully perceive and understand All Things. It’s someone who belongs to the group of people you’re discussing and they’re Not Very Happy with you. Apparently, they claim, you’ve got it all wrong and they’re offended about that. They might be a person of colour, or a queer person. Maybe they’re a woman, or a person with disability. They could even be a trans person or a sex worker. The point is they’re trying to tell you they know better than you about their issues and you know that’s just plain wrong. How could you be wrong?

Don’t worry though! There IS something you can do to nip this potentially awkward and embarrassing situation in the bud. By simply derailing the conversation, dismissing their opinion as false and ridiculing their experience you can be sure that they continue to be marginalised and unheard and you can continue to look like the expert you know you really are, deep down inside!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:32 PM
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1. List of topics they cover....
or they’ll get lazy!

If You Won't Educate Me How Can I Learn
If You Cared About These Matters You'd Be Willing To Educate Me
You're Being Hostile
But That Happens To Me Too!
You're Being Overemotional
You're Just Oversensitive - NEW!
You Just Enjoy Being Offended - NEW!
Don't You Have More Important Issues To Think About - NEW!
You're Taking Things Too Personally
You’re Not Being Intellectual Enough/You’re Being Overly Intellectual
You're Interrogating From The Wrong Perspective - NEW!
You're Arguing With Opinions Not Fact
Your Experience Is Not Representative Of Everyone
Unless You Can Prove Your Experience Is Widespread I Won't Believe It
I Don't Think You're As Marginalised As You Claim
Aren't You Treating Each Other Worse Anyway - NEW!
But You're Different To The Others - NEW!
Well I Know Another Person From Your Group Who Disagrees!
A In B Situation Is Not Equivalent To X In Y Situation
Who Wins Gold in the Oppression Olympics?
You Have A False Consciousness
You're Not Being A Team Player
You've Lost Your Temper So I Don't Have To Listen To You Anymore
You Are Damaging Your Cause By Being Angry
You're As Bad As They Are - NEW!
Surprise! I Was Playing “Devil’s Advocate” All Along!
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:56 PM
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3. Grossly inadequate

Don't see nothin' about basements, hot pockets or baby seals. These folks should check with the real experts. Right here.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 07:12 PM
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4. And ponies.
Mustn't forget ponies.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:38 PM
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2. One of my all time favorites.
:thumbsup:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 07:13 PM
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5. I've had it bookmarked for ages and have posted it here before..
...but - it's worth spreading around! :hi:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 08:06 PM
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6. Kicked/Bookmarked
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 08:08 PM
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7. K&R
Always loved this!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:02 PM
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8. As promised - bingo cards.
:evilgrin:

Oh, you're gonna love some o' these.


Antifeminist bingo 1

Antifeminist bingo 2

Rape Apologist Bingo - Matthew Johns Edition

Evolutionary Psychology Bingo!

White Liberal Bingo

Fat hate Bingo 1

Fat hate Bingo 1

Libertarian troll bingo

Girls Don't Like Comics Bingo

Global Warming Sceptic Bingo!

Rape Apologist Bingo - "Midnight Louise"




I'd have been here sooner but my Embarq/CenturyLink internet connection keeps dropping and slowing.

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:21 PM
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9. Mmmm, well worth the wait. (nt)
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:23 PM
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10. :D
I just wish they'd use the b.i.n.g.o. and numbers on the cards throughout each of the cards. It would make reading through threads hilarious.

LOL

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:27 PM
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11. Someone really needs to make a (better) template.
I nominate you! :P
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:29 PM
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12. LMAO - I saw that coming a mile away.
I was thinking the same thing which is why I didn't post it.

I was hoping someone with more patience and time would take it on before I had to.

:rofl:

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:32 PM
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13. Oh yes, another keeper of a post!
I've been trying to collect more of those.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:36 PM
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14. I remembered to put this post in my journal which will bring me back
to this thread and its resources.

Yeah, I'm tired of fighting the same fight over and over and over and over and ... you know the rest.

:hi:

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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:17 PM
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17. LOL...that's great.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:22 PM
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19. Thanks, Bobbie Jo. Wish I could take credit. I found it on a blog
during a setup of a post that I, less-than-affectionately, call "whack-a-mole."

I cleaned up the links and updated a few more and here ya go. :hi:

Yes, I am using this as an opportunity to kick this thread.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:51 AM
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30. Oh too funny, thank you for those
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:38 PM
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15. This is great. Thanks!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:57 PM
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16. Watch out, though.
The little dears get cranky when you refuse to play their game.

Rather than giving direct links and getting deleted because of DU rules, I'll just advise you to go check out the thread in which I used these links and this site for its intended use.


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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:25 PM
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21. ahhhhhh
I see, I see.

(Nice job! :hi:)
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:28 PM
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22. Thank you.
And thanks for looking.

:D

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:30 PM
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25. *cough* Contraception *cough*
:hide:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:35 PM
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26. LOL
I'm getting over some cold/flu/creeping crud/misaligned planets or some such and laughing causes me to cough.

I hate the cough, but the belly-laugh was definitely welcome. Thank you.

:rofl: *cough* *cough* :rofl: *cough* *cough*

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:37 PM
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27. When I broke a rib, my friends were there for me...
...with a joke.

Bastards.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:38 PM
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28. I see we have the same friends.
:rofl:

LMAO

:rofl:

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 12:06 AM
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29. All the best people, sweetie darling.
;)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:53 AM
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31. That is where I saw this and LOVED what you did.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:21 PM
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18. Next Project: Let's sticky a list of logical fallacies in GD. (nt)
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:24 PM
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20. What?! You trying to shut down GD?
Oh, and yes, I freely admit to fighting fire-with-fire and using said fallacies; kinda, sorta.

LOL

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:29 PM
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23. Oh, it'd be unenforceable.
But awfully convenient to reference. :)
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:30 PM
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24. Point taken.
I've seen something similar enforced. It was quite the experience. If only...

:hi:

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