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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:23 PM
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Bill Donohue: Sexual abuse in the Catholic church is a homosexual problem, not a pedophile problem
Last month, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League appeared on The 700 Club to promote his new book, "Secular Sabotage: How Liberals Are Destroying Religion and Culture in America."

During the interview, the question of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church came up when Robertson asked if "all these scandals in the Catholic Church part of this secular agenda to undermine to undermine the moral fabric of the church." Donohue replied that indeed they were:

"There's no question that within the Catholic Church you have a you a left element ... I regard them as termites sitting within, trying to eat away the fabric of the Catholic Church. So they lie about it in the Catholic Church, they say "oh, we had a pedophilia problem." It's been a homosexual problem all along. It's not my opinion, it's the actual data from the John Jay Criminal Justice System College (sic) here in New York City which looked at the data. I'm not saying homosexuality causes predatory behavior; I'm saying that most of the priests who have been predators have been homosexuals."

What do you supposed Donohue has to say about this?

A preliminary report commissioned by the nation's Roman Catholic bishops to investigate the clergy sex abuse scandal has found no evidence that gay priests are more likely than heterosexual clergy to molest children, the lead authors of the study said Tuesday.

The full report by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice won't be completed until the end of next year. But the authors said their evidence to date found no data indicating that homosexuality was a predictor of abuse.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/what-say-you-now-bill-donohue

The list of what the right wing defending the indefensible continues to grow...
HPV
KBR gang rapists
The coup in Honduras
And now pedophiles
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:24 PM
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1. The Catholic Church hierarchy is determined to expedite the demise of their institution.....
Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 03:41 PM by marmar
..... which is already all but irrelevant now.



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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:15 PM
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35. +1
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:54 AM
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45. He's not really a part of the Catholic Church
hierarchy. His organization is separate. But, I agree, he's not helping the matter here. Those who deny the problem in this way are a huge part of the problem.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:25 PM
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2. If that's true, why were little girls molested by priests, not nuns?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:41 PM
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11. Good question
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:11 PM
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31. Or just getting it on with another horny gay priest - instead of boys?
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:13 PM
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32. Because the priests had the "power"
that's why.

That's why it took so long for these abuses to come to light... watch the movie Magdalene Sisters.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:26 PM
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3. lol did gays cause the hundreds of millions of murders in the name of the church in 2000yrs? nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:33 PM
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5. Good old catholic church, killing for god. n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:35 PM
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7. of course
it's always the fault of The Gays. Didn't you know?



:sarcasm:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:36 PM
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25. I believe they did
But they just used to call them christians:evilgrin:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:32 PM
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4. Who gives a shit what kind of problem it is?
If they molest little kids they are pedophiles.

Ergo it is a pedophile problem.

I don't care if the priests that do this are gay straight, or whatever. They are pedophiles.

Donahue should first shut the fuck up, then eat shit and die. And keep his personal prejudices out of this.

I think he doth protest too much. Anybody know anything about his personal life?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:35 PM
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8. Agree, "he doth protest too much." Usually these types have their own dirt they are trying to hide.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:33 PM
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6. Typical hypocrisy.
The reason that the pedophile priests molested boys primarily is because the priests had the most access to them...

But of course it's much easier to again scapegoat one of their traditional minority targets than to own up to the fact that their policies are antiquated, and have been for centuries.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:39 PM
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9. He's such a hateful blowhard
Unfortunately, there are too many of his type around...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:06 PM
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28. Incest! Breeds those of like mind. n/t
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:40 PM
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10. Donohue is one batshit mutherfucker.
He appointed hismelf the head of this co-called Catholic group and spews his shit all over TV like he is the Pope's Man in America. :mad:

I cannot stand that piece of shit.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:48 PM
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12. I have never heard any RCC figure speak against Donohue
and thus I assume he is the Pope's voice in America. The Pope has not said otherwise. I have not once heard any criticism of him by any of their Bishops or Cardinals. I hate his guts as well. They don't seem to mind him a bit.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:50 PM
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13. I have no doubt The Ratz LOVES old bigots --
like Donohue - they are made from the same ugly cloth.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:09 PM
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29. And soiled filthy ugly cloth invested with the diseases of hypocrisy, bigotry and hatred. n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 05:10 PM by RKP5637
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:56 AM
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46. He is nowhere
near the Pope's voice in the USA. He's got not direct relationship with Papal authority. His organization acts independently of the Vatican.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:53 PM
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14. Well, just to prove him wrong, here are several cases involving Protestant
Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 03:56 PM by old mark
clergy and children:
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/variousabuse.html

There was just a case last week in Reading, PA of a parish priest involved with a young girl, too, just to be fair about this-don't want to leave the Catholics out.
And this might be of interest, too "Gay priests not the problem...."
http://www.politicsdaily.com/category/disputations




mark
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:54 PM
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15. Donohue is the
member of a group of dangerous ultra conservative fascistic Catholics. William Bennett is another of this ilk. Donohue is wrong on many issues.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:55 PM
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16. Fuck you, Bill
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:57 PM
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17. So turn over Bernard Law then.
Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:59 PM
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18. If that's the case the solution is simple.
Don't lock up gay priests in the closet so they have to turn to illegal, immoral, hidden predation on much weaker victims for gratification.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:01 PM
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20. This would be one constructive path to take in the aftermath of
all these scandals; one among many changes that need to happen.

Which is why it will never happen, of course.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:00 PM
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19. And I love how they continue abusing children - because by
suggesting that the children who were preyed upon by those of an age of majority were consenting, they are implying that children who are raped are partially to blame.

Oooo, I am so mad right now. :mad:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:08 PM
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21. Bill Donohue is a sick dude
Have you guys heard some of the imagined scenarios that he attributes to those he calls depraved? That man is messed up.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:09 PM
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22. This sick & twisted old Irish white supremacist is suggesting these so-called...
homosexual "termites" destroying his already oppressive, conservative, dry-humping clergy from within; have been *placed there* by the left, and that has to be the insane proclamation of the new years to come cause it is so clearly the idiot bather of a hate filled bigot - the termites Donohue should be calling Orkin as regards, and in great post haste; are the ones eating into his feeble brain
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:21 PM
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23. So? It's still a problem
and the Church does not appear to have done anything to address it.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:15 PM
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36. Same old crap... blame it on all of the gays. What a bunch of fucktards is the catholic church. n/t
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:33 PM
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24. Robertson is an anti-Catholic bigot
who once claimed that "we all have the right to worship in this country, Christians, Catholics and Jews."

If he doesn't believe Catholics are Christians, why have Donohue on? Why would Donohue go on?
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:54 PM
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26. If it were homosexuality the priests would be molesting
adult men, not kids...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:56 PM
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27. BIGOT!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:11 PM
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30. Wasn't Donahue the guy who said this:
"Who really cares what Hollywood thinks? All these hacks come out there. Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general, and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, okay? And I'm not afraid to say it. That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus Christ, and it's about truth. It's about the Messiah. Hollywood likes anal sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes. I like families. I like children. They like abortions. I believe in traditional values and restraint. They believe in libertarianism. We have nothing in common."

Sick, small minded, deranged man.
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:14 PM
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34. Wow, this makes me REALLY want to become Catholic.
Right after I get done eating this broken glass.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:30 PM
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37. Pedophilia has been an open secret in the Catholic church
for hundreds of years. And for hundreds of years it's been a relatively safe place for pedophiles to go and do what they do, protected and therefore enabled by other pedophiles within the church hierarchy. The notion that it somehow all started in the 1960s, or whenever, with the rise of secular liberalism, is just about the stupidest fucking thing I've heard all day. Donohue's conflation of homosexuality and pedophilia is flat despicable--what a colossal gaping asshole he is. You have to wonder what dark, ill-suppressed impulses of his own Donohue's projecting on his political enemies. That's usually how it turns out with these guys with the flecks of spit in the corners of their mouths.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 06:36 PM
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38. Will no one rid us of this meddlesome priest?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 11:56 PM
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39. That is crap to equate something natural like homosexuality with something sick.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 12:04 AM
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40. Oh, bullshit....
....the priests are doing CHILDREN. If they were attracted to those of the same sex, they would be involved with other MEN ... ADULT MEN.

What stupid, bigoted, idiotic, homophobic trash ...sheesh...
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:32 AM
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41. Seems to be a CATHOLIC problem to me, Bill. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:40 AM
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42. I haven't seen any conclusive proof that "The Catholic League" consists of anyone BESIDES that fart.
As near as I can tell, it's just an excuse for him to get his bloated mug on tv and spew garbage.
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optimal-tomato Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:26 AM
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43. A valid point.
I think there's only one Catholic in the world that thinks: "The Catholic Church is the divine organization of God on this Earth. It's immensely powerful and wealthy, with a vast public relations mechanism. But I NEED TO DEFEND THEM BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL!"
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:51 AM
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44. He is actually correct. It is a homosexual problem.
Where he is incorrect is it a problem we created or where we are culprits. One of the greatest slurs against gays, besides spreading AIDS/HIV, is we are child molesters (especially true of gay men). Many, probably most, here see what he says for what it really is, bigotry. Unfortunately, it is something still believed by many people, some at an unconscious level: gays are child molesters. In our great envy of being unable to produce children with others of our same sex, we must, therefore, recruit.

What he says is bigoted. It isn't even remotely factual. However, neither of those two previous statements sway some people. I have seen the "homosexual = pedophile" equation applied here; and no, it isn't just trolls. There are multitudes of stereotypes involving gays (most are about men; male homosexuality is, to bigots, a greater threat to society,) and many are employed by people who claim they aren't homophobic. They may not be homophobic, per se, but they sure do have some strong feelings (stereotypical) feelings (comments) when it comes to gays.

So, while most reading this thread will dismiss this as bigotry, it is important to understand that what he says, it is a homosexual problem, is very true. It is why we should never just laugh off, dismiss, or ignore this level of bigotry; when it goes unchallenged, in everyday situations, it will continue to live.
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