A good pictoral summary of what has happened to China

[AllentownJake]

http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/

October 14, 2009, the 30th annual awards ceremony of the W. Eugene Smith Memorial Fund took place at the Asia Society in New York City. Lu Guang (卢广) from People’s Republic of China won the $30,000 W. Eugene Smith Grant in Humanistic Photography for his documentary project “Pollution in China.”


You wonder why jobs go there? Because you can pay someone $2 a day and destroy the land with no consequences.

[Nikki Stone1]

1. K & R

:kick:

[Horse with no Name]

2. A republican wet dream of what they would like in this country

but those damned tree huggers won't let them.

[AllentownJake]

10. The GOP is more interested in extraction

i.e. strip mining, lumbering, and shale oil extraction, the cheap labor and manufacturing is best left to the Chinese.

China's chief resource is cheap labor, ours is our rich mineral base and fertile lands.

[Go2Peace]

22. This is also what libertarianism brings. No Tax base and little regulation for the common good

[Deja Q]

3. Not a good way to build an empire...

No regulations, no standards, nothing. Whether it's China (state-owned companies) or multinational companies leeching - another debate, that is.

[gateley]

4. PLUS (if I'm not mistaken) corporations actually get tax breaks for doing business/

manufacturing overseas. :shrug:

The only war this country has won is the war against the middle class and the American way of life. :grr:

[NYC_SKP]

5. Yet there are Progressives who insist that they MUST shop at Walmart.

I just had to take a stab at Walmart.

I patronize independently owned grocers, hardware stores, etc., except when they don't have what I need.

Which is increasingly common.

[AllentownJake]

7. For some people it is hard

I have to make a trip to Wal-Mart every two weeks because my autistic brother loves the place and there isn't that many other stores in the town his group home is located.

For the people in that town, there isn't that much of a choice.

[NYC_SKP]

11. Increasingly, the choices are fewer and far between.

A condition due, in part, to the success of Walmart, et al.

For those getting truly bare necessities of life, I have no issue.

I don't know, however, that these make up nearly as much of their sales as what I would call "cheap crap one really doesn't need".

Lately I've been curious about "hoarders" and the extent to which they are a product of a consumerism society.

Does America have a significantly higher number of them per capita than other countries?

:patriot:

[AllentownJake]

12. You can't hoard if you can't buy

So yes America probably has a larger group. Hoarding like over eating is probably genetic.

[csziggy]

6. They are not just destroying the land - they are helping to destroy the world

The massive levels of pollution are an even better reason to not buy Chinese products than loss of American jobs and industry. They are killing the planet and we are paying for it.

[AllentownJake]

9. Indeed

proposing any regulation on carbon on American industries would just transfer those industries to China without punative tariffs on Chinese Goods.

[NOW tense]

8. Human Canaries

Thanks for posting.

[SPedigrees]

13. Hell on earth. Terrifying! eom

[amandabeech]

14. Thanks for posting his here on GD.

It was posted over in environment and energy a week or so ago. Yeah, I should have asked the poster to put it here.

Sometimes it seems that people here are more motivated by environmental concerns than they are about other people's jobs.

Maybe this will get some folks' attention.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Remember Love Canal?

Not justifying this mess by the way, but it took that and a few others for us to finally get it.

And when China finally gets tough they will move somewhere else.

This is why I hate globalization.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Yeah, this is what the U.S. was like fifty years ago or so.

Most people don't know how bad it was.

Environmental reform always lags behind industrial development.

[AllentownJake]

17. There are brown fields on the East Coast and Midwest that are still not habbitable

They moved south first, than they moved to China.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. And they will move somewhere else

this is not sustainable

Of course going back to the tariffs that even silly people like Jefferson and Madisson advocated for to build and protect industry would be one way to do that.

[AllentownJake]

19. Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Hoover, and Eisenhower as well

Opposition to Tariffs didn't start till Reagan.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. "xactly

:thumbsup:

[AllentownJake]

21. Kick

[NOW tense]

23. Kick